Music List and Program for consecration of bishop of Diocese of St. Cloud
  • vansensei
    Posts: 219
    If anyone is interested, the Diocese of St. Cloud in Minnesota is consecrating their newest bishop, Most Rev. Patrick Neary, tomorrow afternoon.

    https://stcdio.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Ordination-Liturgy-Guide-–-Bishop-Neary-FINAL-with-cvr-web.pdf

    Here is the program and music selection. Good choice of hymns.
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  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    Thank you for sharing this.

    Mass of Creation isn't a hymn, and nor is the ICEL Gloria (as you're using the term, I suspect).

    What (aside from O God of Throne and Altar) did you like so much about the hymns?
  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 2,086
    "O God beyond all praising" and "Holy God" were about the best of it.
    This is lowbrow, even by the standards of the typical Cathedral mixed-style "keep everyone happy" program. I have to wonder what Abp. Sample thought of what he heard.
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  • vansensei
    Posts: 219
    Just O God Beyond All Praising. That melody can do no wrong.
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,092
    Well, but a congregation can wrong the melody. I would not use it as a congregational hymn at a liturgy where you have a mix of non-British congregants from all over who are not familiar with the tune; it's not exactly OLD HUNDREDTH or GROSSER GOTT.
  • kevinfkevinf
    Posts: 1,190
    Wretched......
  • Jeffrey Quick
    Posts: 2,086
    Eh, I dunno, Liam, seems like people want it at every wedding I do. And our patronal hymn is set to the tune, and people don't seem to have a problem.
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    Every time I hear a hymn set THAXTED, I think of "Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity." As the hymn ends, I feel thrown back into the music that follows it in the orchestral movement. But I come from an age long before "O God beyond all Praising" or even "I vow to thee my country" ... fossil that I am.
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  • Nathan_the_Organist
    Posts: 440
    I know someone who is from St Cloud. From what he has said, I would say this is typical of this diocese.
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,092
    " . . . seems like people want it at every wedding I do"

    Then it would appear you have more than enough congregants at those weddings who are familiar with it. (I am familiar with it, and can sing the tune happily, but I am quite aware that the majority of people appear not so to be. Maybe the issue is so many fewer people have nuptial Masses than was formerly the case.) To be clear, I am not someone who argues in any way against programming unfamiliar music at Sunday Masses - the only way people become familiar with music is through such programming, after all - but I am mindful that congregations gathering From Away (as one might have described it in parts of New England in generations past) for ritual Masses can dilute such local familiarity as may happily exist otherwise.
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,092
    Well, I guess you are old if you were born before 1925:

    https://hymnary.org/hymn/SoP1925/page/293

    But of course as a text written during WW1 by the UK Ambassador to the USA, and a tune by Holst, it's certainly stamped emphatically British. I am fond of the apt subtitle for the text that included in that 1925 hymnal: "The Two Fatherlands".
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