Salva nos domine vigilantes
  • I am wondering if anyone knows if the antiphon for the Canticle of Simeon is in any other tone besides IIIa? The question arose because the Nunc Dimitis itself is in all 8 tones but for some reason the antiphon is always in IIIa. Does anyone have the answer to this?
  • Chrism
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    Where are you seeing the Nunc Dimittis in all 8 tones? I know it can be set to these tones, but is there some source book with the canticle written out all 8 ways?
  • We have booklets of it in our monastery, but I am not sure what the original source is from, as we are cloistered but without a vow of stability and so therefore can be, and are sent to different monasteries ever 2-3 years, thus we have lots of things without knowing where they came from because of frequent change of sisters... We have a booklet with all the Gospel Canticles (Magnificat, Benedictus, Nunc Dimitis) which has each G.C. in the 8 tones. Previously we had just been singing the antiphon in directum when we wanted to chant a different tone, and on feasts use the tone iiia...
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  • GerardH
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    Check @joerg's document linked at this discussion. I can't check myself right now, but I believe the OCO has alternative anitphons to the Salva nos which may be used ad libitum at Compline
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  • You can sing any text to each of the (more than eight) psalm tones. But which one you actually use depends on the antiphon that is sung before and after.

    For Compline, Salva nos is the traditional antiphon, but the 2015 Ordo Cantus Officii offers alternatives: Vigilemus omnes, Gregem tuum, Lucem tuam and Pacem tuam.

    These alternatives are not all of mode IIIa; IVe and VIIIg are among them.

    Gregem tuum can be found in Abbazia di Praglia, Salterio Corale (2015), 316. The other antiphons have not yet been published in modern chant books. The transcriptions by Joerg are, in some cases, questionable.
  • Richard MixRichard Mix
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    Lasso uses the whole tonary too.