New Eucharistic Hymns- Transubstantiation
  • monasteryliturgistmonasteryliturgist
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    I was asked by the General Government of my Religious Order to write an English or Latin Hymn using the word TRANSUBSTANTIATION several times ... that is a long word to include: does anyone have any ideas on how I could do that or know of any existing poetry or prayers from Saints including the word... that would be helpful. Thanks!

  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
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    Monasteryliturgist,

    Off the top of my head, I can't think of any hymn which uses this word, but if you think of it from an engineering standpoint... work backwards and figure out (for example, how long a line of poetry would have to be to INCLUDE the word, and what kind of meter -- iambic, trochaic, anapestic, alexandrine.....--- you need, and design the rest of your text around it.

    To be really silly for a moment, imagine a cheerleading squad or a collection of square-headed traditionalists, saying something like:

    "What do we want? Transubstantiation.
    When do we want it? Now"

    or

    "Give me a T...

    What does it spell.....
    Transubstantiation."

    Then, being less silly, fit the word into a tune such as Deus Tuorum Militum, to see what kinds of tunes already exist which could fit this word easily. Compose your text around it, and then refresh.
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  • Chrism
    Posts: 868
    Mother Stuart's "Sweet the Nails and Sweet the Wood" (Pius X Hymnal #211) has the line:
    Table of the holy Nation / where was spread the mystic Food,
    For its transubstantiation, / sweet the Nails and sweet the Wood


    There it was fit into an "8" syllable line of a 8.7.8.7 meter. Since transubstantiation is a 6-syllable word, you would want to look at a meter long enough to accommodate it comfortably.
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  • Liam
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    Specifically, it would more likely fit trochaic meters - 8.7.8.7 meters tend to be trochaic, for example.
    Thanked by 2monasteryliturgist Chrism
  • Kathy
    Posts: 5,499
    I would start with the hymn tune for Father, We Thank Thee (GENEVAN).
    Thanked by 2Chrism monasteryliturgist
  • contemporaryworship92
    Posts: 257
    not appropriate for liturgical use, but Matt Maher wrote this song because he heard a priest say "transubstantiation, now that's a word you'll never hear in a song" and took it as a challenge:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ZeH7reAxo
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