“We Walk by Faith”
  • CatholicZ09
    Posts: 284
    Seeing as this Sunday’s Epistle is “…for we walk by faith and not by sight…” I was wondering how many of you typically use this hymn?

    As part of an OCP parish, I’ve only ever heard it to SHANTI. I never heard it to another tune until five years ago at my diocesan cathedral—to DUNLAP’S CREEK.

    The cathedral has Worship IV in the pews, which sets this to SHANTI, but I did some sleuthing and found that it had been set to DUNLAP’S CREEK in previous editions of Worship, so I’m guessing it may be preferred by the music director. I have to say, I think DUNLAP’S CREEK is the superior tune in this instance, and I like SHANTI.

    Do you use this hymn, and do you have a preference in tunes?
  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    Even when I was in an OF parish, I used it very sparingly. There's nothing wrong with St. Paul's text. That's not the reason I avoided it.
  • vansensei
    Posts: 219
    When I substitute cantored at Pentecost, I think it was to Shanti.
  • CharlesW
    Posts: 11,980
    Our hymnal only had the Shanti version. I do like Dunlap's Creek.
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,093
    For folks unfamiliar with the tune, the melody of the original is the middle line here:

    https://www.ccel.org/ccel/walker/harmony2/files/gif/DunlapsCreek.gif

    I strongly encourage musicians to engage with the original settings of shape-note tunes. Towards that end, here's an audio-visual:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPc2VK52AUU
    Thanked by 1Andrew_Malton
  • Caleferink
    Posts: 434
    I've also seen it set to ST. ANNE ("O God, Our Help in Ages Past").
  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
    Posts: 6,902
    Calefrink,

    Was the text slightly altered, in that case, to read "We MARCH by faith...."?
  • TimTheEnchanterTimTheEnchanter
    Posts: 206
    When I lived in Chicago (but before I was back in music ministry), the parish I went to set it to ST. FLAVIAN.
  • contemporaryworship92
    Posts: 259
    I'm planning to use this on Sunday
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXB8ihepUpE
  • RevAMG
    Posts: 162
    I only knew of "We Walk by Faith" sung to SHANTI (which I like) until I visited the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, DC and heard it played to DUNLAP'S CREEK. After hearing that, I prefer it sung to DUNLAP'S CREEK (even though I like SHANTI).
    Thanked by 1CharlesW
  • MarkS
    Posts: 282
    It is paired very effectively with ST BOTOLPH in H82
    Thanked by 2CHGiffen CatholicZ09
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,093
    ST BOTOLPH is a good setting:

    https://hymnary.org/hymn/HTLG2017/page/261

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-VEkdLihdk
  • Richard MixRichard Mix
    Posts: 2,799
    to DUNLAP'S CREEK at CPDL.
  • CatholicZ09
    Posts: 284
    @MarkS, I like that. Nice!
  • SponsaChristi
    Posts: 402
    My Latin Mass Community sang the Marty Haugen Shanti version (I don’t know why) and it sounded so cheesy. I had a very hard time singing it while keeping a straight face. I’m surprised to read that someone actually likes it. Maybe it works better in the OF, or if the organist doesn’t have a broken arm and thus can jazz it up some more to give it some dignity, but I felt like it should be sung fromaggio.
  • Carol
    Posts: 856
    I cannot stand the Haugen version, especially because it is transcribed in mixed meter! What is obviously a pick up note for the first word is not written that way and so to "fix it" they made a half measure there and put a measure of 2/4 for the third measure. (At least that is how OCP has published it.)
    Thanked by 1CHGiffen
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