Novus Ordo Sacred Music Workshop in Melbourne - your opinions?
  • JesJes
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    Please consider before responding that this is a course primarily about music for Novus Ordo. I understand this will trigger people (it has indeed plucked my tridentine heartstrings in a bit of a nasty way) but let's just keep the politics aside for a second and discuss from a post VatII perspective please.

    Let's pretend for a second that VatII ideals were not run off with by randoms who wanted to meet their own agenda... does this course look like it embodies how Novus Ordo sacred music should be?
    Does it, from the outside, look like the presenters have a personal agenda or does it look realistically like it is truly designed to be surrounding Church documents of Vat II? I suppose that is my question.

    My concerns are that some of the presenters are musicians pushing indigenous music in their own music ministry and this filtering into this course. But I am biased because I know some of the presenters and I dislike some of the directions they are moving in.

    https://www.acu.edu.au/about-acu/institutes-academies-and-centres/acu-centre-for-liturgy/professional-development

    What do you think? From the outset to me it looks like perhaps a step in at least a direction the Church in Melbourne needs. We need music education for our musicians and I am glad the Church has listened. I have been begging for a while for education to take off down here.

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  • Music is an integral part of the Church’s liturgy – a living art form that voices the Church’s prayer and theology in an unsurpassable way.


    True.
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    Liturgy and liturgical principles
    The sacramentality of religious leadership
    Celebrating masses with young children: top ten hints
    Celebrating non-sacramental liturgies in school communities
    Exploring the Directory for Masses with Children and the Eucharistic Prayers for Masses with Children
    How to celebrate well in Catholic schools
    Engaging youth in liturgical celebrations
    Liturgical music for primary schools
    Sacraments of initiation
    Sacraments of healing.


    They're all worthy topics, but since I don't know more about the philosophical approach (yet) of the folks preparing the talks, I can see very easily how things could go off the rails.
  • smvanroodesmvanroode
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    https://www.acu.edu.au/-/media/feature/pagecontent/about/institutes-academies-and-centres/acu-centre-for-liturgy/session-descriptions.pdf

    To me, the detailed description of the sessions indicates that this is a thorough seminar rooted in Church teaching on liturgical music. Seems they use Joncas’ From Sacred Song to Ritual Music as their basis. I like the ‘theology of music/music as theology’ approach.

    On the other hand, I don't know the presenters and how they interpret Church teaching on liturgical music. A session on ‘Textless Music in Worship’ and other topics like ‘supporting the assembly’s sense of corporate identity’ make me cringe a little bit, though it could turn out well.
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  • PaxMelodious
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    some of the presenters are musicians pushing indigenous music in their own music ministry


    Even apart from the course, this interesting: please tell us more about the indigenous music in the Australian church.
  • francisfrancis
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    Digeridoo pipe organ?
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  • JonathanLCJonathanLC
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    I am also quite interested in the approach to indigenous music. Any more information would be very much welcome. Though I find myself doing a masters in Afrikaans Orthodox music, this might give me some ideas to mull over.