And he loves it.
This just goes to show that alternatim (though it was supposedly suppressed in the early XXth century) is not dead. It lives on in the great churches of France, where one can hear Gloria sung this way at mass on great feasts. The people are quite accustomed to it and sing their part heartily. Pity, though, that the organ doesn't offer any improvisation of genuine music - just full organ blasting away for the entire Te Deum....something like this.
overshot the mark.Geez....you assume.
I've seen it listed as the antiphon for the reception of a bishop
Is there even a "rite of reception of a bishop" in any postconciliar liturgical book?
1179. The bishop, in the vestments indicated in no. 63, should be received in a manner suited to the circumstances of the place and the situation. If this seems appropriate, the bishop may be solemnly received and greeted by the clergy at the door of the church. But the bishop may even be escorted to the church with festive song, when this is feasible and appropriate. A dignified solemnity in receiving the bishop is a sign of the love and devotion of the faithful toward their good shepherd.
As much as it pains me to say this, in the Novus Ordo in this ceremony one "Goes with the flow", which often means that there is no official greeting of the Bishop. The "no greeting" approach has two causes in my opinion, one of which is poor indeed. 1st, Many bishops don't want the fuss and ceremony. 2nd, many bishops are so busy, especially in the US, that they do not have time for a prolonged greeting and vesting ceremony in addition to the liturgy they are celebrating.
Yes but currently at least, the Church only uses it in Masses celebrating particular exemplary canonized bishops.
Holy yikes, can we just all realize once and for all that "Ecce sacerdos" and other such liturgical texts are praising God raising up the OFFICE OF BISHOP and not praising an individual?
BruceL - Yes but currently at least, the Church only uses it in Masses celebrating particular exemplary canonised bishops.
So true ... but let us not forget that we have the (too often neglected) duty to pray for them; which is in no way opposit to what you wrote. I think that "Ecce sacerdos magnus" is splendid in this respect.On the flipside, sometimes priests and bishops today need to be reminded that they have a great and dignified office to fulfill - they have to be shocked out of their own banality. Sometimes outward humility is a cover for a person's unwillingness to step up to the plate and do the hard work necessary to fill an important role.
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