Charpentier Messe de Minuit pour Noël
  • kevinfkevinf
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    Contemplating for Christmas. Anyone with experience of it. Editions?
  • Our choir has performed it twice. A bound performing edition is available from Concordia Publishing in St. Louis. It's very charming; I hope that we perform it again in the not-too-distant future.
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    I have sung both the Messe de Minuit... H. 9 and the In Nativitatem Domini Canticum H.416 (with Zephyrus, about 20 years ago) in editions by H. Wiley Hitchcock (& Paul Walker, then music director of Zephyrus, for H.416 full score, critical edition, available from J.W.Pepper). They are both marvelous works, typically Charpentier.

    Marc-Antoine Charpentier: In nativitatem Domini canticum H. 416
    Bach Collegium at Saint Peter's
    Dr. Bálint Karosi, Conductor
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    Messe de Minuit (Charpentier)
    Deutsch-Französischer Chor Dresden
    Dirigent: Reinhart Gröschel
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  • Yes, we sang the Messe de Minuit from the Hitchcock edition. Readily available, as we needed to restock in order to sing it for Christmas 2018. Where DO these copies go, I ask you?
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  • Richard MixRichard Mix
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    Depending on how you feel about notes inégales, the written out dotted notes of Hitchcock's edition (or the CPDL editions based on his) might serve. I've made my own, but N. Sceaux on IMSLP seems good, and has parts.
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  • Richard R.
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    I have performed it, using the Concordia edition (I think). I would suggest deleting the many instrumental interludes, which make it unduly long.
  • BruceL
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    I'll offer the counter to Richard R.: if you are working in the EF, you should most certainly NOT delete the interludes. The Mass is based on carols, and this is a way of (if you will) "gladdening the hearts" of the faithful who hear it...and showing the tunes upon which it is based.

    That said, some prudential pruning *might* help it work better in an OF setting. But...à chacun son goût!
  • We will sing it, with an organ reduction of the orchester. And I fully agree with you, BruceL : the very idea of this mass is to introduce and integrate popular carols to the most intricated masterwork, as the popular faith meets with the finest liturgy in the moment of Christmas !
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  • Chaswjd
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    We usually just sing the Agnus Dei. It is a fun piece.