• smvanroodesmvanroode
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    As I understand, this is an adaptation of The English Gradual (1982) of Francis Burgess, which sets de propers to psalm tones. The "gradual reproduces the essential psalm tones and chants of the Burgess in the same modern notation, and the texts of the propers are presented according to the arrangement as found in Divine Worship: The Missal." (anglicanorumcoetibussociety.blog) See also www.newliturgicalmovement.org
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  • This book is a purported successor or alternative to The Anglican Use Gradual, It is said to have textual alterations to bring it into line with the propers as found in DW:TM. I have observed that, whatever its virtues, it omits the Latin incipits at the head of each chant. Such incipits have long been customary scholarship in Anglican liturgical books and one is sorry to see them cast so insouciantly aside. It is also saddening to learn that 'modern' notation has been used instead of chant notation, as if chant notation for the psalm tones was 'inaccessible' to those who might use this book. This is a disappointing (and insulting) step back from the AUG usage, which is in chant notation.

    This book compares in no way to the Palmer-Burgess Plainchant Gradual, which is an adaptation of the Gregorian melodies as found in GR into Old Church English. Burgess also edited The English Gradual, which puts the texts of the propers to psalm tones. TEG was superseded by the AUG. The St Peter's Gradual would seem now to have superseded the AUG.
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    As an aside, I notice that none other than The National Catholic Register refers to the St Peter's Gradual as being '...the minor propers....'. I point this out because we had quite a to do about the 'minor' or 'lesser' propers on another thread a year or so ago, some maintaining vociferously but in hopeless error that 'minor' or 'lesser' were strictly Anglican usages and that no Good Catholic should use such spurious qualifiers in reference to the (lesser) propers.
    For those who missed out on last year's discussion, the 'minor' or 'lesser' propers are the Introit, Gradual (or RespPs) or Tract, Alleluya & Verse, Offertory, and Communion antiphons and responsories of the day. The 'major' or 'greater' propers are the lectionary and collects of the day.
  • stulte
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    some maintaining vociferously but in hopeless error that 'minor' or 'lesser' were strictly Anglican usages and that no Good Catholic should use such spurious qualifiers

    Why you decided to pontificate about this here is beyond me...(sigh)

    I'm personally saddened to hear that this new publication no longer includes the Latin titles as well.
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  • Carol
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    I think MJO was writing to inform not to pontificate. I am grateful for the reminder.
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  • stulte
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    Most of his post was informative. The ending was gratuitous. Regardless, I hope this new book proves useful for those for whom it's intended.
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  • It was notable that the Register's review of St Peter's Gradual commended the book for use in ordinary Roman rite parishes as well as in the Ordinariate, which is its primary user. Let us hope that many will take this cue as a means of restoring the propers in their churches.
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  • chonakchonak
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    The content looks admirable, but the placement of text under the reciting tones could be improved. I'd prefer seeing a breve instead of a whole-note as the reciting tone; and I'd want it aligned with the first syllable of the phrase.
  • As an aside, I notice that none other than The National Catholic Register refers to the St Peter's Gradual as being '...the minor propers....'. I point this out because we had quite a to do about the 'minor' or 'lesser' propers on another thread a year or so ago, some maintaining vociferously but in hopeless error that 'minor' or 'lesser' were strictly Anglican usages and that no Good Catholic should use such spurious qualifiers in reference to the (lesser) propers.


    In that discussion, the person attempting to defend the usage of "lesser" propers was asked to provide any evidence before 1965 of such an application—from a Catholic source, not an Anglican source. That person was unable to do so. After that, there really wasn't anything more to be said.

    (Specifically, the person said: “This distinction is of long standing and is quite Catholic in origin and use.” That is erroneous.)
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  • Richard MixRichard Mix
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    Here's the original bee-in-a-bonnet thread, just in case anyone's interested.
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    And here is what Fr Wikipedia has to say about the proper of the Mass (emphasis and italics mine):

    The proper of the mass, strictly speaking, consists of the Introit, Gradual, Alleluia or Tract, Sequence, Offertory, and Communion - in other words, all the variable portions of a mass which are spoken or sung by the choir or the people. These are sometimes called the "minor propers" to distinguish them from the collect, secret, postcommunion, and readings - in other words, all the variable portions of a mass which are spoken or sung by the priest or other attendants, such as a lector or deacon. In Roman Catholic and Anglo-Catholic practice, there is a moveable portion of the service that, strictly speaking, does not form part of the proper known as the Accentus. Portions of the Accentus are often referred to as part of the "proper" if they satisfy the criteria of changing by date (such as the Preface and Epistle).
  • stulte
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    Given that Wikipedia isn't particularly old, I'd want to look closely into the sources for that article.
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    This isn't particularly old, either, but this sample(!) description comes from the recent (Dec. 2018) document Divine Worship - Archdiocese of Portland in Oregon (Roman Catholic), Chapter 2 - Chanting the Propers:
    The Propers of the Mass are liturgical texts that vary from day to day
    according to the calendar: the Introit, the Gradual, the Responsorial Psalm,
    the Alleluia Verse (and the Lenten Tract which substitutes for it), the
    Offertory Chant, and the Communion Antiphon. These are sometimes
    refered to as the minor propers to distinguish them from the collect, prayer
    over the gifts and the post communion prayer, which are sometimes called
    the major propers. Together the major and minor propers for a given Mass is
    called the euchological formulary.

    The entire document is well worth a read.
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  • ghmus7
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    Stulte:
    I cannot imagine MJO pontificating on any subject... (besides, he is Anglican use member lol)
    When he does venture his opinion, you may be assured that he does so from a rather vast surfeit of knowlege and experience.