Alleluia at the Opening of Vespers/Evening Prayer
  • mjballoumjballou
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    In the Liber Usualis, the Alleluia following the Gloria Patri is replaced from Septuagesima to Wednesday of Holy Week with Laus tibi Domine Rex aeternae gloriae. HOWEVER, in the Ordinary for Evening Prayer in the volume "Christian Prayer," no such provision is given and it would appear that the Alleluia is neither replaced nor surpressed. When I consulted Evening Prayer in the online "Universalis," the Alleluia is omitted.

    I wish to avoid outburst from liturgy police. My thought (since my Vespers are a hybrid of LU and LoH) is to omit the Alleluia.

    Any thoughts? (Don't tell me how much easier life would be with the LU. I already know that.)
  • David AndrewDavid Andrew
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    I'm not familiar with the one-volume "Christian Prayer", but I have seen the thinner "Shorter Christian Prayer", and I seem to recall that they don't put the "alleluia" in at all.

    In the full four-volume LoTH, the "alleluias" appear in red parentheses, which I find really annoying, because as I'm reading along my eyes still land on the word, since I can't program my brain to block out everything it sees enclosed with red parentheses. As a result, I find myself putting my finger over the word so as not to be inclined to recite it by accident. It really makes praying the offices during Lent stressful!

    I would eliminate the "alleluia" in any case.
  • Richard R.
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    Showing once again the inherent dangers of relying on condensed or abbreviated versions of anything having to do with liturgy, Christian Prayer rather unhelpfully includes an "abridged" version of the General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours (ca. 1971), which fails to include Chapters II and following, and thus the pertinent instruction:

    "Morning prayer and evening prayer begin with the introductory verse, 'God, come to my assistance. Lord, make haste to help me.' There follows the 'Glory to the Father,' with 'As it was in the beginning' and 'Alleluia' (omitted in Lent). This introduction is omitted at morning prayer when the invitatory immediately precedes it." (41) [GILH, Lit Doc 5, USCC 1983]
  • ossian1898ossian1898
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    The traditional breviaries will have, from Suptuagesima through Lent "Laus tibi, Domine. Rex aeternae gloriae." This was, rightly or wrongly, removed in the modern Liturgy of the Hours.
  • chonakchonak
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    The Latin Liturgia Horarum has the Alleluia year-round, except in Lent, and does not add "Laus tibi, Domine...."
  • mjballoumjballou
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    I'm going to surpress it.

    I find Christian Prayer more of a hindrance than a help and only drag it out when I'm forced. I won't even get into the lame collection of hymns in the back.
  • darth_linux
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    My little group been singing Vespers I for the last 3 Saturdays of Lent, and for the final hymn (after the dismissal) we sing a version of Regina Coeli which includes an "alleluia." I know a formal alleluia is prohibited during Lent (at Mass, etc.) but should I change to another hymn for the remaining 3 Saturday's of Lent? No one has said a word about it, and since it isn't the Mass I wasn't too worried about it. Thoughts?
  • chonakchonak
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    I'd hold off the alleluia and any hymns including it until Easter. Ave regina coelorum is the Marian antiphon for Lent, and it's fairly short. Would your group like singing the Latin plainchant?
  • dvalerio
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    Here you have the General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours in English (a most recommended reading). Search for the word «Alleluia» using your browser, and you'll see that in ALL cases that the word shows up either it is said immediatly that «Alleluia» is ommited during Lent or the paragraph concerns something for Easter Time only! (And as many have said, there is no provision to replace the Alleluia with «Laus tibi».)
  • eft94530eft94530
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    Alleluia is neither sung nor said during Lent. Not at any time, not as part of anything.

    The last time you can use Alleluia is Shrove Tuesday during Compline (Night Prayer).
    The next time you can use Alleluia is Easter Vigil during the Gospel Acclamation.

    Once a member of a religious community (Dominican),
    this always presented problems starting Ash Wednesday morning.

    As a helpful reminder to anyone of the community who might forget,
    there was the instruction at a rehearsal for all to prolong the Invitatory Amen (Amehhhhhhhhnnnn).
    Despite this effort, there was always at least one guy who would afterward
    press on with a solo Ahhhh.

    In the "old days" it would have been venia time.
    http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2008/07/dominican-venia-and-kissing-scapular.html
  • darth_linux
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    ok thanks, I'll look for a setting of Ave Regina Coelorum. @ chonak - I'd love a latin planchant version!
  • chonakchonak
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    Easy enough: it's in "Chants of the Church" (downloadable from CMAA) and "Jubilate Deo", too.
  • darth_linux
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    thank you!
  • eft94530eft94530
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    eft: "Alleluia is neither sung nor said during Lent. Not at any time, not as part of anything."

    Except ...
    if you are an EWTN radio station needing some random minute-long piece of music
    to fill the gap between broadcast programs, like I heard a few hours ago.
    Sigh.
  • chonakchonak
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    Um, they did that for our Eastern Catholic brethren, who retain the Alleluia during Lent. Yeah, that's it.

    :-)
  • mjballoumjballou
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    Bearing in mind eft's caution, I gave my singers a new sheet for the opening of Vespers in Lent with the Alleluia deleted. It's just too tempting. And I would probably be the one to do it.