We follow our bishop's request that it is used for Children's Masses (the children in the RC primary schools are taught it) and for celebrations like Station Masses when several parishes get together. The bishop wants the ICEL Mass to be the default choice in the diocese.

We used it during Advent and Lent last year and probably will again this year (the rest of the time we mostly sing Orbis Factor as Englished by Fr Kelly).

We use it because it is easy and familiar and the likeliest to be sung also by the congregation. It isn't quite sustaining enough to be used all the year long. I switch to it to mark the change in season, and the simplicity of those chants seems to fit the Penitential seasons. (Yes, there are wonderful Gregorian ordinaries for Advent and Lent but we are not there yet.)

Some people do not tolerate even a tiny bit of chant. Like gluten, I guess. I insist on singing "Kyrie" not "Lord" ... and on using the second ending that descends to the final. Even that gets (got) "weird, can't sing it, sing something with a tune" etc etc from some people.

In Canada the Missal Gloria is not the ICEL one, as many forum members already know. The Canadian chant Gloria is a quite singable piece of modern plainsong.

I have used it exclusively since 2011. The pastor says it is free, simple, and consistent. He doesn't want to spend $10k on new hymnals, since our Ritual Songs are in good shape and still functional as hymnals.

I used it last year during Ordinary Time. I will do it again this year but not as much as last year, possibly between Christmas and Lent.

We've never used it, except for the first ("We proclaim") and third ("Save us Savior") forms of the acclamation at "The Mystery of Faith" (Advent/Lent and Per Annum, respectively; Christmas/Easter is "Mortem tuam"). We were using Latin (or Greek) exclusively for Kyrie, Sanctus, & Agnus for about 20 years before MR3 came out, so we just continued. For the Glory to God, we simply ICEL-ated the setting we had been using (Mozarabic chant from The Hymnal 1982), later we added Ralph Bednarz's mode vi setting (during Christmas/Easter the Gloria is sung in Latin). When sung, the Paternoster is in Latin. We probably had the smoothest MR3 transition in the Diocese.

Missa Meus Marvos Equus, no?

Tell you what... we had a major program screwup at a wedding I just played. It was supposed to be the Proulx Missa Simplex. Since the congregation had no resources, we defaulted to ICEL. The participation was wonderful and the effect quite beautiful. I have had a bit of a mind change. It is a solid, singable, official and common setting for the English language Mass.

Currently, the Catholic Chapel at West Point uses the ICEL Chant Mass and Heritage Mass; we are hoping to introduce at least one additional setting in the fall (I've only been here since January). We're moving incrementally in a more traditional direction, and the ICEL has worked well as part of that process.

Their lives will get a lot more interesting as soon as the cops catch them.

I think their lives will get a lot more interesting long before the cops arrive.

The ICEL Gloria, if sung by everyone straight through, can be mindnumbing. But, if sung antiphonally and with Jeff Ostrowski's creative accompaniment--with all those delicious harmonies--this Gloria has a compelling momentum. It is really quite rhythmic.

The Vicar General sings an English-language Mass at the chancery chapel at noon on the third Tuesdays from Sept-May; and the Order of Mass from ICEL's The Roman Missal: Third Edition (RM3) has been used exclusively. On the rare occasions where a Gloria is called for, the RM3 adaptation of Gloria XV is sung; on the rarer occasions where a Credo is prescribed, the RM3 adaptation of Credo III is sung.

I believe the trick to its gaining traction is for the leaders to establish and maintain a relatively quick pace (unscientifically, ~50–70% of spoken tempo). This is critical especially for weekday Masses like those described above, where many attend during a fixed lunch break. (Yes, homilies are abbreviated as well.)

I use the Sanctus and Save Us Savior from the ICEL chants, and the Greek Kyrie and Latin Agnus Dei with them. Like many others I'm not a fan of the ICEL Gloria setting. I learned and taught the revision of John Lee's Congregational Mass Gloria to the parish, with the intention of it being familiar for our children's choir for a Pueri Cantores festival trip that never materialized. Now we're kind of stuck with it.

I use the chants besides the Gloria for Advent, Lent, and funerals, and I incorporate them with the Gloria for the summer months of Ordinary Time. I'll sprinkle in the Lee Gloria at other times of the year, including solemnities and feasts during Advent and Lent, Holy Thursday, and some other OT Sundays.

I am interested in the Gloria that Canada uses. Is there a link online?

Their lives will get a lot more interesting as soon as the cops catch them.

I think their lives will get a lot more interesting long before the cops arrive.

They'll probably get an offer to direct music at those "clothing optional" Lutheran churches Garrison Keillor used to talk about so much.

We use it during Advent, Lent, and for funerals.

The Mass in Honor of St. Benedict was a good compromise - Thornock was great for pushing for it.

That is wildly disappointing.

Continuousbass - I thought I was the only one. We were doing just fine with the simple English propers along side hymns & the occasional motet. One day I’m told 5 minutes before mass “no antiphons no chant no Latin”

CharlesW, aside from marveling that it was that it was that long ago already, I sent a lot of emails to diocesan liturgy offices if they did not have any news about the new translation. I also got on listserves. One message: a new hymnal is not needed. I remember someone posted a booklet here (which could not be downloaded outside the diocese's physical confines) that a diocese in Ohio had put together. They had gotten the clearances to print I think 5 settings, with the instruction that the booklet was to be printed and put in pews, exactly to avoid buying new hymnals. I am glad to hear of dioceses or parishes who avoided that pitfall.

Kenneth

$1 million!! That's a lot of spending. I must say the experience of life in the Archdiocese of Washington is rather different than it is perceived outside the Archdiocese. Cardinal "Uncle Ted" McCarrick instituted a systematic attempt to have parishes get their financial houses in order. My own parish skated up to the brink and really had to work to get everything back in line. A mistake such as the one you mentioned places a burden on the faithful for many years to come.

Kenneth

And just when the new pastor pays off all the debts, he'll get moved, never to see the benefits of his prudent fiscal leadership.

Settefrati93,
I had a great priest tell me those who are dismissive of chant and the propers are in sin. Then I had a popular priest tell me that great priest was an idiot. Those are some rare folk I tell you.

I have said many times, there is accounting, then there is Catholic accounting.

Although GIA asked me to write an accompaniment for the ICEL chants, I have always found several elements in them to be compositionally poor. The Gloria becomes tedious after repeated use. The opening of the Holy, Holy is positively ludicrous in English: Ho-lee-hee, ho-lee-hee... Fr. Chrysogonus Waddell (who did most of the chant settings in the 1974 Sacramentary), and Fr. Columba Kelly (who composed most of the so-called St. Meinrad chants and should have composed the chants in the 2010 English edition of the Roman Missal) both had the wisdom to see that plastering the English text on to the beginning notes of Sanctus XVIII just does not work.

ronkrisman...I wonder if the ICEL Sanctus opening would not be quite as awkward if it was just sung: Ho-oh-lee, ho-oh-lee. That seems a bit better to me. But just a bit. The Sanctus is short enough that it is not much harder to just sing the Latin which works better to that chant.