Remember that good old Allen digital I mentioned a while back? Well...
  • I visited my grandparents’ church in December when I heard they no longer wanted the organ, in the hopes of either getting it to where I work now (we don’t have one), or if that couldn’t happen then taking it home. I discussed all of this with the pastor at my work church, but learned that while we are “financially very secure” the church owes an enormous seven figure debt because of a roof rebuild from a few years ago, and that no funds are available to make a large purchase. So I was bummed and left it at that. Months went by and I assumed the organ had already been sold...
    The pastor at the other church just left me a voicemail after all these months, saying they are desperate to get rid of it and if I am able to have it moved it’s mine.

    I just so happen to have a meeting later tonight with the pastor and worship committee. Surely we can scrape together money for a moving van?! And if the answer is no again, it’s coming home with me because the pastor told me they will just throw it out if no one takes it. It’s not fancy but it still plays just fine, more than fine for me to practice at home!! On a practical note about that, I’m assuming the speakers are too large/loud for use at home, if that’s true what would I need??

    I’ve needed some good news for a while. This year has not been good to my health so far, and I was in the emergency room last week because of the ongoing vertigo which spawned a nasty anxiety attack. The ENT practice refuses to take me without a referral, so I have more hoops to jump through before I can get any answers about my condition. So, I hope this leads to something positive. I believe that it will. :-)
  • bhcordovabhcordova
    Posts: 1,165
    Fide,

    Many specialists want a referral so that your insurance will pay for it. If you have an HMO, then you have to get a referral to see a specialist.
  • GambaGamba
    Posts: 548
    Hi and congratulations! Keep the speakers that are with it, if they are functional. Even if the cones are decaying, they can be replaced by Allen for less than the cost of new speakers. You will not be able to run it directly through your home stereo or smaller speakers; the amps are sending a pretty powerful output designed to drive speakers of that sort and trying to tap them to go through something smaller will blow up the speaker.

    You CAN turn the overall volume down to a whisper, if you want, and make the same organ much louder or softer than it was in the church, simply by adjusting the amplifiers. You can pop the back off easily enough, by opening the lid and undoing the little clamps that hold it against the frame of the console. The amps are lying on the bottom, on the floor, and there will be knobs that should say Gain or Volume. Those will drop or raise the volume of that channel; play with those until you get what you want. If possible, put the speakers as far away as possible, even in another room, and point them at a wall to diffuse some of the typical digital harshness.

    It is also possible, if the model doesn’t already have a headphone jack built in (most big Allens for church use didn’t have one in past decades) to rig it up for use with headphones. This will require maybe $75 in parts, plus however much you want to pay for good ‘phones. I can walk you through this if you PM me.

    When I was 16 and homeschooled and often bored, I picked up an 80s Allen for home use and was very happy learning my rep and tinkering with it to make it sound as good as possible. If you maintain it well, it’ll never die (which is unfortunate, considering the 60s analog Allen TC1 that I still goad along weekly at the high school mass).

    Also check out organforum.com; there are a lot of Allen techs and owners who hang out there and many old threads that can point you in good directions.
  • x2 on organforum.com. There are some very nice, helpful, and knowledgeable people there.
  • Thanks all! It’s a smaller two manual, believe it was made in the 70’s. I doubt it has a headphone jack. I wonder if one could somehow be installed? Hmm.
  • On a humorous note I’ll need to downsize my dining room table if it does come home with me...
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  • eft94530eft94530
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    On a humorous note

    Cathedrals have organs.
    Rip out the drywall ceiling.
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  • HA! Too bad we’re not in our old century house, 12ft ceilings. Miss that drafty old place.
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  • I doubt it has a headphone jack. I wonder if one could somehow be installed?


    Yes it is possible, as Gamba noted. (Whenever there is an audio signal being carried on a wire, it is possible to tap it and create a headphone jack.) Gamba is obviously familiar with the details of how to do it on this particular organ, so I'd use that resource if I were you, as it has been offered...
  • Ah sorry I missed that. Thanks!
  • @eft94530: if we weren’t selling this house next year I might give that a try LOL
  • eft94530eft94530
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    Can you build a platform for the console and put the speakers below?
    Or tall platform on which to place speakers above console?
  • Not sure if I’ll have enough room, I need to take several measurements in the next few days. I am concerned enough about just getting the console in the front door. I left a message with the pastor and told him I’ll need to come to the church and measure everything. There’s way too much drama at work right now to even discuss it, so the organ either comes home or goes who knows where :-(. It’s a larger “church sized” console, not exactly compact like the home models, but not exceedingly large like the Rodgers at my previous job. Ugggh I sure hope this works out.
  • matildacmatildac
    Posts: 15
    I hope you manage to get it through the door (of this house and the next)! As for speaker placement, you could consider placing them overhead. This is our practise organ set-up, and I think it is a very clever long-term solution if you can swing it.
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  • eft94530eft94530
    Posts: 1,577
    getting the console in the front door

    If you have a few pvc sprinkler pipes and tee connectors
    then you can create a footprint and walk from curb to destination
    to simulate the task.

    Might a dolly travel from curb thru gate into backyard
    to a sliding glass door which might be wider?
    Dont know which is easier,
    removing front door from hinges or
    remove sliding door from track.
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  • bhcordovabhcordova
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    Removing the front door from hinges would be easier (30+ years as a general contractor). Removing and replacing a sliding glass door is a major pain.
  • CharlesW
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    When I last moved my Rodgers, I removed the music rack and pedalboard, stood the console on its end on a furniture dolly, and wheeled it through the door. Worked like a charm.
  • We don’t have a sliding glass door so front door it is! We do have a dolly so that will definitely come in handy...