Sir Neville Marriner, RIP
  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
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    In the charity of your prayers, please remember Sir Neville Marriner (most recently of St. Martin in the Fields), who died this morning. He was 92 years old.

    Requiescat in pace.
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  • M. Jackson Osborn
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    This is sad. We have lost an icon of the early music movement.
    There will be prayers!

    Also, I have noted that Nikolas Harnoncourt died earlier his year. Interestingly, he was born into lineage of Holy Roman emperors and other European royalty. He, too, did much for early music.
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  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    Requiescat in pace, Sir Neville Mariner. He was a giant for early music.
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  • CCoozeCCooze
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    Oh no, how sad! May his soul rest in peace.
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  • Chris Garton-Zavesky
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    I met him, but it was such a long time ago, relative to my life span, that I don't remember doing so. My mother reminded me that my grandfather had introduced me to him...... Sir Neville was two years ahead of my father at a grammar school which has been in continuous operation since the days of King William II.

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  • FidemInFidebusFidemInFidebus
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    I credit Marriner with giving me my first experience with early music. I got a two disc set of his Vivaldi "L'Estro Armonico" in high school, went on to be chastised for the influence it had on me during my senior year solo competition, where a judge not-so-kindly suggested I listen to someone else. RIP, Sir.
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  • bhcordovabhcordova
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    Grant him eternal rest, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him.
  • CharlesW
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    May his memory be eternal.
  • ronkrisman
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    May his memory be eternal.

    Is this a common expression in Eastern Churches? I ask that in all seriousness.

    If Eastern Churches DO commonly use the expression, I would like to learn more about how it came about. My present reaction to it is that it hedges on fundamental Christian beliefs in the resurrection of the dead and eternal life. Thanks for the memories, sure, but my hope is for more than Peggy Lee's "Is that all there is?"
  • Liam
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Eternal_(chant)
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  • CharlesW
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    Is this a common expression in Eastern Churches? I ask that in all seriousness.


    Quite common. It refers to remembrance by God, rather than by the living. It is another way of praying that the soul has entered heaven and is enjoying eternal life. The forms of "rest in peace" that are heard in the west are never used in the east.
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  • ronkrisman
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    Thank you, Liam and CharlesW.
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  • M. Jackson Osborn
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    The East often has a more profound grasp of quite a few things than the West. Being kept in eternal remembrance by God is certainly more to be desired than 'resting in peace' - whatever maudlin notion is meant by that. The East would never give us the likes of the Revised Grail, nor heartlessly require its people to suffer under nearly sixty years of dynamic equivalence.
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  • M. Jackson Osborn
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    In fact, one might be so bold as to suggest that, whilst the East would reap a bounty of wisdom and truth if it were to embrace and be embraced by the Magisterium and communion with the Bishop of Rome, one might hasten to add that the East could express that Magisterium far more magisterially than the West ever dreamed of. Too, the horrid liturgy and music that is permitted by the West, even with the enthusiastic connivance of its hierarchy and clergy, would not be tolerated for fifteen seconds by Easterners. Something is wrong, Very Wrong.
  • Liam
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    The Western analogue would be closer to the praying that someone's name be forever written in the Sacred Heart.
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  • CharlesW
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    Jackson, I must be one of the few people who hasn't seen the Revised Grail. I have seen bits and pieces in other places, but not the collection.
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  • M. Jackson Osborn
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    Well, Charles, you aren't missing much.
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