Novus Ordo in Latin?
  • Hey, there:

    Does anyone know of a Novus Ordo Mass done in Latin on a weekly basis in any setting --parish, Cathedral, or monastery? There is our beautiful one at St. Matthew the Apostle, which has been celebrated continuously since the new Mass was promulgated. There were ones in two of the contiguous dioceses, as well as one in the National Shrine, but when I did a survey some years ago, I was unable to find any others in the US. Alas, those three are now gone, so I think St. Matthew in DC may be the only one. If anyone knows anything else, I would love to know about it.

    Kenneth
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  • LenaH
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    St. John Cantius in Chicago has an 11:00 OF in Latin

    www.cantius.org/go/liturgy_devotions/category/liturgical_devotional_schedule/
  • NihilNominisNihilNominis
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    Old St Mary, Cincinnati.

    Chapel of Chrisendom College.

  • rich_enough
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    You can check the Latin Liturgy Association website which lists masses in Latin (both 1962 and 1970) in the US and Canada.

    I count about 30 weekly masses at parishes and 10 in monasteries; many more if you count "hybrids" and less than weekly masses. (N.B.: It's been a while since the page was updated - some of the listings are out-of-date, e.g. Assumption Grotto in Detroit now celebrates their Latin mass according to the 1962 missal.)
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  • igneusigneus
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    @rich_enouth Where is the division between a Latin mass and a hybrid? How much vernacular do you allow a mass to contain without falling into that other despicable category? :)
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  • rich_enough
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    I'm not a member of LLA and so don't know exactly what their standards are for a "hybrid" mass.

    I've been to masses they list as fully Latin according to the 1970 missal, and they normally have the readings and general intercessions in English (gradual instead of the resp. psalm), but everything else in Latin.
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  • Annunciation in Houston has 11am OF Latin. Resp. psalm sung in directum, English for readings/psalm and intercessions; Latin otherwise.
  • a_f_hawkins
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    Things look a bit better in Britain, though again the website admits it is out of date. Central London at least has a NO/OF Mass in Latin every day, and these are classed as all Latin.
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  • dad29
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    How about St. Agnes in St. Paul, MN? Not only Latin OF, but sung with choir and orchestra!
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  • I was unfamiliar with the LLA website. It's been quite a while since I looked, and other resources back then really meant the EF when they said "Latin." Thank you very much. I see two Cathedrals, and the one at the Basilica in Baltimore has been restored. An organist for that Archdiocese told me it had been dropped a few years ago. The Arlington diocese has three parishes, so we have a nice arc from Philadelphia to Arington where it is routinely available.

    I believe the readings, homily, and intercessions must be in the vernacular, so that would probably not be "hybrid," though I may be wrong. I know of one bishop in CA who will not allow an entirely Latin Novus Ordo, so the many sung parts are in Latin but the Eucharistic Prayer is in English. That would count as hybrid in my book, but I don't know about the website. (Just checked: the church I described is listed as "hybrid," so that must be the standard.)

    But thanks. That's very helpful. Much easier than when I went through diocesan websites one by one.

    Kenneth
  • chonakchonak
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    St. Benedict's Abbey in Harvard, MA offers Mass in the modern Roman Rite in Latin.

    I'm a member of the LLA, and I can say with assurance that the directory listings marked "Hybrid" are not very clear. I've seen Masses listed as "Hybrid" merely on the basis that the choir sings something in Latin occasionally. The data is crowd-sourced and the category is vague. So don't expect much from those listings.
  • BenBen
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    Not exactly weekly, but our chancery has one on second tuesdays of the month.
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  • Sacred Heart Parish, Grand Rapids, Michigan, celebrates a Sung OF Latin Mass on Thursdays at 7:45 am during the school year.
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  • SarahJ
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    Cantores in Ecclesia sings a weekly vigil Mass at St. Stephen, Portland, OR that is NO in Latin.
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  • St. Mary of the Angels in Chicago, every Wednesday at 5:30pm.
  • JL
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    I believe the nuns of Regina Laudis in Connecticut celebrate their Masses in Latin as a rule. You'll have to get up early, though.
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  • Priestboi
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    Hi Everyone!

    Where can I find a NO Latin Ordo text (plain)?
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  • matthewjmatthewj
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    St. Joseph in Detroit has had one since the inception of the NO I believe.
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  • GerardH
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    I do know that the Opus Dei are not averse to celebrating regular OF Masses in Latin - every Saturday at my old college.
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