Foot washing practices
  • JaredOstermann
    Posts: 488
    Last minute question!

    What are you all doing in your places (and/or what is your cathedral doing) for the foot washing tomorrow? Leaving it out? Only men, with an educational statement? Mixed crowd?

    Is there a statement or explanation from the diocese where you are?
  • Spriggo
    Posts: 122
    We will, like always, have a mixed crowd. I haven't seen anything from the Diocese, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there wasn't anything.
  • canadashcanadash
    Posts: 1,501
    We have always had our Knights as the foot-washees... It will probably be the same tomorrow sans statement. Not sure what is happening at the diocesan level.
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  • cmbearer
    Posts: 75
    We are doing what has been done many times at this parish. Anyone can come up and have his/her feet washed and then he/she in turn washes the feet of someone else.
  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 2,315
    The priest for whom I am helping as MC says it has been politicized and is a distraction, so he is dropping it.
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  • BenBen
    Posts: 3,114
    Same here, Matt. We've skipped it for the past few years.
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  • CharlesW
    Posts: 11,980
    I will find out tomorrow.
  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
    Posts: 1,933
    SSPX chapel. Three guesses as to whether or not it'll be "mixed".
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  • CCoozeCCooze
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    There were women making a fuss about it on Facebook, back when our rector first posted the article with Cdl Sara's comments. I think from that moment he should have decided to drop it.
    I'm pretty sure he hasn't, though, because we still have music assigned to that point in time. =(
  • CharlesW
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    Maybe those toe-cleansed ladies will get a foot fungus.
  • Steve CollinsSteve Collins
    Posts: 1,022
    We never do it. It is, after all, an option.
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  • MatthewRoth
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    Of course, how I wish the SSPX would just drop it and go pre-1955 without anyone objecting, Stimson... I love the chants, but not the moment...
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  • Bridget Scott
    Posts: 39
    Men only without explanation or apology.
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  • Liam
    Posts: 5,093
    On a side note: there is at least one place that celebrates the Triduum liturgies according to the pre-1955 schedule. The Basilica of the Holy Sepulchre (and not only in years when Eastern and Western Pascha/Easter coincide). Because of the Status Quo, that's why. This year's schedule (in 24.00 hr time):

    24/03/2016 CELEBRATIONS
    Holy Sepulchre: 7.00 Entrance – The Lord's Supper & Procession of the Blessed Sacrament – 13.45 Office Cenacle – S. James – S. Mark: 15.30 Pilgrimage Gethsemane: 21.00 Holy Hour

    25/03/2016 CELEBRATIONS
    Calvary: 8.00 The Lord's Passion Via Crucis: 11.30 Holy Sepulchre: 16.00 Office – 20.10 Funeral Procession

    26/03/2016 CELEBRATIONS
    Holy Sepulchre: 7.30 Easter Vigil – 15.15 Solemn Entrance 15.30 Procession –18.00 Vespers – 00.30 Office

    27/03/2016 CELEBRATIONS
    Easter Sunday Holy Sepulchre: 9.30 Simple Entrance – 9.45 Solemn Mass & Procession – 17.00 Daily Procession

    28/03/2016 CELEBRATIONS
    Emmaus (Qubeibeh): 10.00 Solemn Mass (Custos) – 14.30 Vespers Holy Sepulchre: 8.00 Solemn Mass 17.00 Daily Procession
  • BenBen
    Posts: 3,114
    They also do it here, Liam: http://www.materecclesiae.org/
  • MatthewRoth
    Posts: 2,315
    Ben, the Sepulchre now uses the Novus Ordo, but I was under the impression they used the ancient rite until 1997. Mater Ecclesiae uses the new times for pastoral reasons.
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  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    Because of the Status Quo, that's why.


    I love the Status Quo. Almost as much as the Status Quo Ante.
  • Liam
    Posts: 5,093
    Ben

    Those times are for evening for Thursday and Saturday...
  • TeresaH
    Posts: 53
    The strangest thing happened today -- I was asked if I would have my feet washed tomorrow. They knew I am directing my choir but wondered if there was any way I could do it. Of course I said no, but I can't figure out why they asked me. I am probably about the least liked person in the parish, (by the priest, anyway) and if they know me at all they would know that since I'm not a man I wouldn't go for it. Can't figure it out.
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  • FidemInFidebusFidemInFidebus
    Posts: 611
    After stating either here or somewhere else that I didn't feel comfortable participating, God had other plans and tomorrow night I'll be in front of my enormous church getting my foot washed...The priest chose all of this year's RCIA people, my husband is one of them, and discovered that all of them plus some of their spouses gives him the 12 people...so I was asked to participate. Here's to trying something new I guess LOL!
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  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    Of course, how I wish the SSPX would just drop it and go pre-1955 without anyone objecting, Stimson...


    The SSPX won't do this any time soon, Matt, for one simple reason: it would mean that Cekada and company were right all along. It's the same reason that their priests (at least those trained in their seminaries, at any rate) frown upon wearing the biretta - because that's what the Pius the Fifth Boys do. It may sound silly, but recall that some Catholics would frown upon using the symbol of the all-seeing eye in the triangle to represent God because the symbol has been hijacked by the Freemasons, or the Indian religious symbol of the swastika for that matter.

    An aside - am I the only person who doesn't think the 1962 Holy Week is such a bad thing?
  • MatthewRoth
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    I know. And basically everyone in the Summorum world laughs at them for it.
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  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    I have not yet begun to delve into the Divine Comedy that is the Lefebvre Legacy . . .
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  • CharlesW
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    Building on TeresaH's post on foot washing, "The strangest thing happened today." I arrived at the church for Holy Thursday liturgy and found the foot washing had been cancelled by the pastor. Worked for me!
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  • TeresaH
    Posts: 53
    I figured it out ... they were desperate. Only half of the chairs were filled for the foot washing so people jumped out of their pews and ran up to fille the rest of the chairs. The church wasn't very full tonight which was unusual, compared to past years. Music went smoothly, though, until the Pange Lingua and Tantum Ergo. We started the first verse of Pange Lingua again because it looked like we would need more, then the priest disappeared into the Adoration Chapel and set the Ciborium down and left. We didn't get to Tantum Ergo, there was no Benediction and everyone was standing around wondering what just happened and what to do. It was a bit awkward.
    He told me before Mass that the bells weren't going to ring for the Gloria, he'd save that for the Vigil. Well, at least we had the Kyrie and Gloria!
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  • CCoozeCCooze
    Posts: 1,259
    There were no fewer than 4 women having their feet washed tonight.

    Whatever.
  • MatthewRoth
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    That’s so...dumb. The missal says to ring the bells, and that means there is no contrast with the crotalus.
  • canadashcanadash
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    My church is a fairly large building. Someone must have made a note that the regular Eucharistic bells weren't loud enough over the organ, choir and congregation, so the servers rang two sets. It was jubilant! And you know Matthew, you are right, they were a significant contrast to the crotalus.
  • MatthewRoth
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    We had three sets plus the tower.
  • canadashcanadash
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    We had three sets plus the tower.


    Show off. lol!
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  • CharlesW
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    We used the altar bells and zymbelstern. We will use those and the tower bells at the Easter Vigil. We decided to scale back a bit in a nod toward simplicity for Holy Thursday and save our thunder for the Easter Vigil.
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