• joerg
    Posts: 75
    Last week I've received my copy of the new Ordo Cantus Officii. I first checked the 4 week cycle of Ferial Antiphons and the antiphons for Sunday Gospel canticles. It turned out that most of them have already been published:
    The antiphons for the Sundays of Ordinary Time correspond exactly to those published in the Antiphonale Monasticum vol. 1 of 2005 (Surprisingly the new Antiphonale Monasticum isn't listed among the printed editions that they cite as sources, while the old Antiphonale Monasticum of 1934 and the Antiphonale Romanum of 1912 are.)
    As for the Ferial Antiphons it turned out that the antiphons for Lauds, Hora Media and Vespers are the same as those given in Les Heures Grégoriennes with two minor exceptions: HG has the same antiphon "Dixit Dominus" for all occurrences of Ps 109, OCO MMXV has 4 different antiphons (which obviously are available from the new Antiphonale Romanum II), also HG has a Marian hymn, Responsorium Breve, and antiphon for the Benedictus for Lauds on all Saturdays. (The corresponding pieces of OCO MMXV are instead available from vol. 2 of the new Antiphonale Monasticum, surprisingly HG isn't listed among the printed sources either.)
    So what remains to check is the antiphons for the Office of Reading. These are shown in part 2 of this post (the post had to be divided because of the length.)
    Most of these antiphons may be found in the Cantus Database, others are contained in the Psalterium or the Antiphonale Romanum. Three more antiphons are from the Milanese tradition and may be found in Terence Bailey's edition (transscribed in the attached pdf). The sources of the remaining antiphons may be found in Frans Kok's monumental Laus Divina: two of these are similar to antiphons of the Nocturnale Vaticanum (also in the attached pdf), "Miserere mihi Domine" is from the Yrieix manuscript. The only Antiphon which is not readily available is "Faciem tuam" (according to LD from an Udine manuscript which I'm going to consult next time I come to the Stäblein Archive in Würzburg.)

  • joerg
    Posts: 75

    HEBDOMADA I


    Dom: CAO3249 (Ps 1, 2);
    CAO4359 (Ps 2, 6);
    CAO5205 (Ps 3, 4.5)

    FII:
    Miserere mihi, Domine, quoniam infirmus sum; sana me, Domine, quoniam
    conturbata sunt ossa mea.
    (Ps 6, 3);
    CAO1875 (Ps 9, 2);
    CAO2824 (Ps 9, 20)

    FIII: "Ut quid, Domine, recessisti longe?" (Ps 9, 22, PM 11);
    CAO3203 (Ex 15, 18);
    CAO5198 (Ps 11, 8)

    FIV: CAO2230 (Ps 17, 2);
    CAO2846 (Ps 29, 11);
    "Retribuit mihi Dominus secundum iustitiam meam." (Ps 17, 21, PM 20)

    FV: CAO2407 (Ps 17, 3);
    CAO3725 (Ps 17, 36);
    CAO5480 (Ps 17, 47)

    FVI: CAO2801 (Ps 34, 1);
    CAO3515 ();
    CAO3616 (Ps 50, 16)

    Sab: CAO4990 (Ps 130, 3);
    CAO2713 (Ps 131, 1);
    CAO3012 (Ps 131, 14)



    HEBDOMADA II


    Dom: CANTUS200849 (Ps 103, 1-2);
    "Domine, Deus meus, magnificatus es vehementer." (Ps 103, 1);
    CAO4433 (Ps 103, 24)

    FII: CAO3300 (Ps 30. 2);
    "Faciem tuam, Domine, illumina super servum tuum." (Ps 118, 135, Udine
    Bibl. Arcivescovile 84, f35);
    CAO2235 (Ps 30, 24)

    FIII: CAO4643 (Ps 36, 5);
    CAO3521 (Ps 36, 25);
    CANTUS204725 (Ps 36, 3)

    FIV: CAO5294 (Ps 38, 2);
    CAO3933 (Ier 17, 17);
    CANTUS? (Ps 51, 11)

    FV: CAO2826 ();
    CAO1884 (Ier 17, 18);
    CAO3735 (Est 14, 12)

    FVI: CAO3859 (Ps 37, 2);
    CAO1883 (Ps 39, 15);
    CANTUS203218 (Ps 37, 22)

    Sab: CANTUS200861 (Ps 135, 1);
    CAO4567 (Ps 135, 1);
    CAO5203 (Ps 76, 15)



    HEBDOMADA III


    Dom: CAO2503 (Ex 15, 2);
    CAO4600 (Ps 144, 13);
    CAO3204 (Ps 144, 21)

    FII: CAO2168 (Ps 49, 1);
    "Immola Deo sacrificium laudis." (Ps 49, 14, PM 124);
    CAO2265 (Ps 74, 5.6)

    FIII: CANTUS201762 (Ps 67, 2);
    "Deus noster, Deus ad salvandum." (Ps 67, 21);
    CAO3230 (Ps 67, 27)

    FIV: CAO2182 (Ps 88, 8);
    CAO2106 (Ps 131, 11);
    CAO4348 (Ps 111, 2)

    FV: CAO4126 (Lam 1, 21);
    CAO1721 (Ps 88, 53);
    "Convertere, Domine, et deprecabilis esto super servos tuos." (Ps 89, 13, PM
    197)

    FVI: CAO5516 (Ps 68, 10);
    "Consolantem me quaesivi, et non inveni; dederunt in escam meam fel, et in
    siti mea potaverunt me aceto." (Ps 68, 21-22, AR [140]);
    CAO4430 (Ps 68, 33)

    Sab: "Confiteantur Domino misericordiae eius." (Ps 106, 8, PM 247);
    CAO2114 (Ps 107, 13);
    "Quis intelleget misericordias Domini?" (Ps 106, 43)



    HEBDOMADA IV


    Dom: CANTUS201364 (Ps 23, 1);
    CAO1701 (Ps 23, 1);
    CAO3389 (Ps 5, 8)

    FII: CAO4432 (Ps 72, 1);
    CAO1687 (Ps 15, 7);
    CAO4306 (Ps 72, 28)

    FIII: CAO1825 (Ps 101, 2);
    CAO4624 (Lc 1, 48);
    CAO3535 (Ps 139, 14)

    FIV: CAO1682 (Ps 103, 1);
    CAO5066 (Lc 1, 50);
    CAO1699 (Ps 102, 21)

    FV: "Quanta audivimus et cognovimus ea, et patres nostri narraverunt nobis!" (Ps 77, 3);
    CAO4577 (Ier 15, 15);
    CAO2824 (Ps 9, 20)

    FVI: CAO1844 (Ps 72, 8);
    CAO1547 (Ps 69, 4);
    CAO3551 (Ps 36, 24)

    Sab: CAO2414 (1 Sam 2, 10);
    CANTUS200405 (Ps 77, 1);
    "Sacrificium laudis honorificabit me." (Ps 49, 23)
  • I was disappointed that they only make this information available in “dead tree” form. It would be infinitely more useful in digital form. While, yeah, ok, they want to recoup some of the expense of the research and such, I’d imagine that the printing costs mitigate against what they get out of this financially anyway.

    My further fear here is that this is to be the last chant volume published for the Office. I’d love to see analogues of AR2 for Lauds, Compline, and the little Offices as well. One would have presumed, on the publication of AR2, that that was the plan, but with the publication of this book—and as a nicely bound, separately sold book—I am now skeptical.
  • igneusigneus
    Posts: 269
    Is there anything preventing anyone from finding all the antiphons etc., assembling a "nicely bound, separately sold book", obtaining imprimatur from the local church authority and selling it (eventually all over the world)? -- I don't think so.
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 7,907
    That may be the way to go, much as Solesmes constructed the 1974 Graduale Romanum based on the Ordo Cantus Missae (well, almost entirely).
  • joerg
    Posts: 75
    There's a remark in the foreword of the new OCO saying that anyone who wants to publish an edition with music must submit it to the Congregation for Divine Worship (for approval I suppose)
  • Is the Antiphonale Romanum the book with the antiphons for the LOTH? As the OCO is the office version of the OCM (right?), is there a Graduale version of the antiphon etc. chants for the Breviary?

    Noob questions, I know.
  • chonakchonak
    Posts: 7,907
    The titles are somewhat misleading: the term Antiphonale indicates that the volume is an Office book, but the structure of the books varies.

    So far the only volume of the Antiphonale Romanum is the Vespers book for Sundays and feasts for the whole year; this is called volume II in the series. It looks fairly self-contained; e.g., it includes the hymns, readings, psalms, and collects. For the seasons of Advent, Lent, etc., it requires flipping from antiphon to psalm and back.

    ---

    There is also another series of LOTH books from Solesmes for Benedictine monasteries; these are called Antiphonale Monasticum. So far these have appeared:

    - II: the Psalter:
    -- the daily offices (Lauds, Terce, Sext, None, Vespers, Compline, but not the Office of Readings), on a one-week cycle (Sunday to Saturday).
    -- It appears to be almost self-contained: it includes hymns, psalms, canticles, collects, and readings.
    -- However, the Sunday offices require a collect and the gospel canticle antiphons according to the season.

    - I: the Seasons:
    -- antiphons for all of Advent, Christmas, Lent, and Easter
    -- For Sundays in Ordinary Time, it provides antiphons for the Benedictus and Magnificat. (A lot of them, because there are multiple schemes, using a one-year, two-year, or three-year cycle.)
    -- antiphons for the Solemnities of the Lord in Ordinary Time

    - III: the Sanctoral Cycle:
    -- proper antiphons for memorials, feasts, solemnities
    -- the Common offices
    -- note: for hymns, the reader is referred to the Liber Hymnarius, published in 1983.

    - V: propers for the Solesmes Congregation, for France

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    Thanked by 2nun_34 CHGiffen
  • Greetings,

    I have been working with several other friends to begin putting together an antiphonal following OCO MMXV, which has proven to be quite the challenge. I am wondering if anyone has had any luck finding the following three antiphons:

    Venditum iustum (p. 141)
    Faciem tuam, Domine (p. 143)
    Induxit eos (p. 164)

    Also, if we have any paleographers out there who are good at reading manuscripts, I have a few antiphons I need to transcribe into modern chant notation.
  • jsigur
    Posts: 12
    As some of you know, a few years ago I began to put together an Antiphonale following the Ordo Cantus Officii MMXV. I have at this point collected almost all of the GABC for the 359 hymns, 2738 office antiphons, and 209 responsories. I have a publisher who has agreed to publish the project (I'm not willing to share who the publisher is until all of the details are worked out).

    Before all the GABC is finalized, I have a few questions for the esteemed members of this forum that I have put together in the form of a Google Form regarding some questions to guide the editing process of the various antiphons and hymns in the Antiphonale. I hope everyone can take a few seconds to answer the 10 questions. Feel free to message me on the forum messenger should you have any questions.

    https://forms.gle/wAnfamsS6DNuVLMu9

    Fr. Joseph
    Thanked by 1chonak