No person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove or alter the texts of the Missal.
1) "our" should be "your", since it's the people's response to the priest, addressed to him. 2) at the end, "holy" is missing. This existed in the older, broken, form of the Missal of Paul VI, in the vernacular, but has been corrected.
Does it qualify as heresy? Which truth of the Church is distorted? Does it qualify as illicit? Absolutely, and it should stop. Does it invalidate the Mass? I don't think so.
I copy/pasted that.... Holy was in there when we said it at Mass.
It distorts at whose hands the sacrifice takes place. Populist theology.
There are other troubling aspects of this parish, but this one is the most pronounced and objectively wrong. That he said the sacrifice was at OUR hands elicited a stare not unlike when cameras get all up in Meloche's face.
It hints at confused thinking and theology, and it may be an erroneous expression of humility, even, but it's not an explicit enough statement to constitute a heresy.
But I sympathize with your reaction; every few months, I decide to go ahead and let my face display a "what on earth...?" expression.
On the assumption that he said his part correctly, "Pray, brethren, that my sacrifice and yours may be acceptable to God, the Father Almighty", then "our" sacrifice is an attempt to conflate the two... but without Father's words at the Consecration, there is no sacrifice anyway. I wish priests wouldn't engage in their own "personal restorations", as the Vatican has called it in official documents, but I still don't think it rises to the level of heresy.
Now, this problem is solved completely when one prays according to the older rite......
I'm curious if they are accustomed to it being said that way. I'll be there a couple of times in the near future and will observe if its always done that way. Something ought to be said to someone (not sure who) if this is how the congregation knows that part of the Mass. IS OUTRAGE.
It may be "an erroneous expression of humility" from the priest, but it gets to inflating the egos of the congregation - who also heard today that they are all saints. *sigh* So what I take from today's Mass is that I am a saint and the sacrifice at the altar comes at my own hands. (I know better, but this is the impression I walked away with)
This comes from the same priest who, a couple of weeks ago, lectured about the poor acoustics in ancient churches. He's a confusing individual.
What Chris said, a valid Mass with illicit changes.
But while not enough for heresy, it sounds like the priest is going out of his way to make a point. In other words, it's smoke that leads one to reasonably suspect there's fire somewhere else.
"So what I take from today's Mass is that I am a saint and the sacrifice at the altar comes at my own hands. (I know better, but this is the impression I walked away with)" ------------------------------------------- After all, "I am the bread of life", and all that...
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