Compline Hymn for Holy Week and Triduum?
  • VilyanorVilyanor
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    What is the proper hymn or hymn tune at Compline for Holy Week and the Triduum? Is it "Christe qui splendor" in the Mode 2 Lenten tune, during the week and then the tone for Solemnities starting on Holy Thursday?

    Many thanks!
  • The Liber Hymnarius doesn't give a specific text or melody for Holy Week and the Triduum. I would use either Te lucis or Christe qui in the mode II tune for Lent for both Holy Week and the Triduum.
  • jefe
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    Here eight of about 60 hymns I have for Compline that would fit Holy Week. I agree, mode II is best for the Triduum. Most of the rest are harmonized to some degree.
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  • RevAMG
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    Father Samuel Weber, OSB in his English-language Hymnal for the Hours seems to agree with @smvanroode, which makes sense since he follows the Liber Hymnarius quite closely. Te lucis or Christe qui in Mode II seems to be the best idea for Holy Week and the Triduum.
  • VilyanorVilyanor
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    I'll likely stick to the II mode melody then, though I'm a little tempted to use the melody of Vexilla Regis, my favorite hymn. Many thanks, good people!
  • jefe
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    Vily, here is one more, in mode II that rolled out of the cage:
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  • jchthys
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    I know that this thread is old, but I wanted to say for the record:

    There is no hymn at Compline during the Triduum. Compline on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday is traditionally said in a low voice and is highly abbreviated. Where the hymn would be, "Christus factus est" is said instead.

    I believe that Compline is not said or sung publicly on Holy Saturday if the Easter Vigil is celebrated in the church that night.
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  • GerardH
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    @jchthys I presume you're not talking of the Ordinary Form?
  • tomjaw
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    @jchthys I presume you're not talking of the Ordinary Form?

    Or all of the vast number of usages and rites of the Catholic Church, other than the form known as the E.F. Divine Office.

    EDIT. I don't know the N.O. Office so can't comment, of course the EF has no Office hymn for compline in the Triduum and the Easter Octave. But historically I would not be surprised to find an Office Hymn for Compline in the Triduum.
  • MatthewRoth
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    I think he is talking of the Novus Ordo, actually. Certainly the rubrical part is correct, and it is true that there is no hymn in the Roman rite of Compline during the Triduum. The usage of Christus factus est has been squeezed in the Liturgia Horarum. I don't have an actual book in front of me, but it seems to me that people just choose a hymn to make up for this. Surely, however, Dom Lentini talks about this in his book on the hymns, and for as much as the new office has no real relationship to the old one, this is an interesting omission, because Lentini wasn't afraid to make changes, to the point where he is the single most-represented author, moving around hymns as he pleased, even to places where they were never sung historically.

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  • smvanroodesmvanroode
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    Certainly the rubrical part is correct, and it is true that there is no hymn in the Roman rite of Compline during the Triduum.

    I tend to disagree. Looking at Liturgia Horarum (volume 2, p. 834), it gives the hymn Te lucis for weeks I, III and V of Lent, and “eodem tempore, per ceteras hebdomadas: Christe, qui” (but the OCO has Te lucis, LH 51).

    There's no mention that the hymn, which is an integral part of the ordinarium, is to be skipped during the Triduum, nor in Liturgia Horarum, nor in the Institutio generalis de Liturgia Horarum (cf. n.87), nor in the Liber Hymnarius, nor in the Ordo cantus officii.

    If someone knows of a rubric that says otherwise, I'm very interested!
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  • a_f_hawkins
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    Looking at Universalis, I find Christe qui on all three days.
  • MatthewRoth
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    Horror of horrors, a book written by a committee in two and a half years has a startling omission.

    Less sarcastically, note that I didn't say that the LH actually drops the hymn, but its failure to specify one when it breaks from the Roman custom in virtually every way imaginable is not a small omission.
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