• chonakchonak
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    A foundation based in Spain has asked us to inform readers about their composition prize. Instructions for potential participants are in the PDF document attached below.
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  • mrcoppermrcopper
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    The specified text is a variant of the Ave Maria I have not seen before. Any opinions?

    Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum; benedicta
    tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Iesus.
    Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, ut
    sancti simus. Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto.
  • chonakchonak
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    I haven't seen it either, and a Google search turns up no other uses of that modification.

    Also, it is puzzling to see the "Gloria Patri..." without the "sicut erat..."
  • Kathy
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    Maybe the rewrite provides a partial line to rhyme with peccatoribus?
  • Any idea about the use of simus at the end? When I looked that up, I found that it means "splayed, flattened," but that doesn't make sense. Is there a second meaning?
  • Kathy
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    simus V 5 1 PRES ACTIVE SUB 1 P
    sum, esse, fui, futurus V [XXXAX]
    to be, exist; also used to form verb perfect passive tenses with NOM PERF PPL
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  • Thank you, Kathy, so would an appropriate translation of the end be "... And pray for us sinners, to make us holy (that we may be made holy)?"
  • stulte
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    Looks interesting. Too bad they want it to be with an orchestra and not just A Capella...
  • francis
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    wow. that is 6k for the prize. i have never seen a composition competition pay out that much.
  • "That we may be holy".

    I guess the instituto has its own version of the rosary: http://www.idente.org/index.php/quienessomos/trisagio-de-maria-y-jose
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  • He who pays the piper gets to choose the tune and the words...
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  • The Gloria Patri, without Sicut erat, would suggest a Responsory, perhaps.
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  • wow. that is 6k for the prize. i have never seen a composition competition pay out that much.

    Can we see their bank statement?
  • francis
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    i don't know, but i will write the music in gold ink if they want.