Learning aids for polyphony pieces
  • Carl DCarl D
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    I wanted to call your attention to the great work that Rick Stuhler is doing to create some learning aids. He's taken some recordings from the Colloquium Archive and married them on YouTube with four-part scores so that singers can follow along as they hear the music.

    Here's what he's done so far:
    * Grieg's Ave Maris Stella
    * Bruckner's Locus Iste
    * Tallis' If Ye Love Me

    I really, REALLY appreciate this!
  • Great idea, but you don't need YouTube to carry it out. If someone posts a score and a corresponding sound file in, say, this very forum, all you need to do is open two tabs in your browser, play the sound file in one, and read the score in the other.
  • Carl DCarl D
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    Absolutely, but plenty of people seem to struggle with even that complexity. And it can be a little harder on a phone.
  • Ben YankeBen Yanke
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    Plus it can make it easy to follow a score. It does make things easier.
  • I've looked at similar videos by many different uploaders and always been amazed at the assumptions they make about eye movement while sight-reading. Anyone who finds these 'easier' had better not be hired as a page turner!
  • Thanks Carl,

    I just loved the great voices singing these hymns ......

    and thank you Charles for CPDL
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJLM0UwKyn4


    Always did like this one.....


    PS: practice part links are imbedded in the video at the end.

  • Pitoni - "Cantate Domino" with part practice links



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkp-0VghkHY
  • Wouldn't ear training be more helpful, in place of all the fancy stuff ?

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  • Carl DCarl D
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    It's a bridge, useful for those who can read music but get lost in the trees.
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  • Choirparts, would it be that hard to turn the page a measure before the end???
  • Thanks Richard........ page turning on fast tempo compositions is the most difficult .... I will use your suggestion for future uploads.
  • Bruckner "Os Justi" from 2012 Colloquium

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6iHoBzIIyI
    Thanked by 1Richard Mix
  • I deleted the multiple link...
  • Thanks chonak... I deleted the multiple links.... they were not visible originally, and I thought they had not posted ....... then...when I entered a comment with the link...it then did post. Thanks again.
  • chonakchonak
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    Dear Choirparts (and everyone),

    No need to post multiple copies of the same thing.

    If your posting consists only of a link, the anti-spam system will likely put it on hold because it resembles spam.

    When one of your comments is put on hold for that reason, the best thing to do is just let me approve it when I do maintenance on the site daily.
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  • Elgar - Ave Maria audio from the “ 2013 CMAA Sacred Music Colloquium” .. with practice part links.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6op7djJrk9s
    Thanked by 1Ben Yanke
  • I am an "all of the above" learner. I might dive into a theory book or an exercise book, and then move on to just really working on one piece. As a teacher with a long career (in English language and writing), I can say that every learning aid is a good one, as long as it is accurate.

    For all the years I spent on chant, I was still having trouble in performance until I memorizes Iudica Me from Lent. Then I discovered how useful it is to memorize things, and am upfront with choir directors that I am still at that point; rehearsal will be hard for me if I don't know what the piece is beforehand.

    However, I am working on sight reading. I have been able to sightread chant for a while, but memorizing one (and every Introit and Communio since) has really freed up the synapses to be able to interpret while sight reading. Now I am memorizing choir parts and singing it while playing another voice. All steps to the same end.

    Yes, a systematic course in music would have done all this, but we have to think of those who aren't at that point but can contribute. Don't let the ideal be the enemy of the perfectly fine.

    Kenneth
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  • Elgar - "Ave Verum Corpus" from the “ CMAA Sacred Music Colloquium” at the Basilica of the National Shrine, Washington DC .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGMwtaZ4acY
  • Byrd - Ave Verum from the “ CMAA Sacred Music Colloquium” at Loyola University Chicago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VaJMotRLtw