Coming back to earth with a bump
  • JulieCollJulieColl
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    Just wondered if anyone else has experienced this: We've been singing at our EF Missa Cantata for about three years, and both my husband and myself are finding it a little difficult re-connecting with the secular and mundane after Sunday Mass.

    After Mass I usually stay and play on the keyboard for a good half hour before I can go outside and chat with my friends whereas I used to love to socialize after Mass. I feel like I'm still up in the clouds after all the chant and polyphony and somehow chatting with my dear friends about the price of bananas is too much of a stretch, at least for a few minutes, and my husband feels the same way, although we love our parish community. Actually, it's not until we're sitting in traffic on the LIE on the way home that the sacred music bubble finally dissipates, and we feel like we're back on earth again.

    Does this make sense and is this a common experience for the rest of you? How do you manage the sacred/profane interface, if you can call it that? Is it common to feel like the sacred musician's job is almost like a religious vocation? (I feel like it is since I often spend hours finding and preparing the music, the handout and practicing with our children at home?)
  • It is certainly a vocation in its own right.
    Called to the ministry? There were years as a musician during which I would attend a mass and roll my eyes into the back of my head at the music. As a church musician, I can at least make it tolerable for others, if not improve on what can be offered, and expand on what is possible.
  • CharlesW
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    After 4 masses on Sunday, I go home tired to the bone - some Sundays even they hurt. I nap, read, relax and don't deal with people for the rest of the day.
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  • Andrew_Malton
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    Seventh heaven problems.
  • francis
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    JulieCol:

    Reminds me of Mount Tabor... "Gosh, Jesus. I think we should build tents and stay here! We really don't need to go back down there!"

    I wish I HAD a Mount Tabor. Count. Your. Blessings. All I have is the Tetons here, and they pale in comparison to what you have in your back yard.
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  • Jani
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    I wish.

    Actually, since I am at the back of the church, immediately after I'm done singing I'm instantly bombarded by someone or other or several of them. No way to avoid it!
  • BenBen
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    I'm an MC in my parish, but yes, I often feel that way after our Masses, which are a 7th heaven for us as well, only they are in the in the OF (but done right: ad orientem, polyphony, chant, sung dialogs, incense, etc).
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  • JulieCollJulieColl
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    Thanks so much for the feedback, and I'm glad to hear I'm not alone.

    "Gosh, Jesus. I think we should build tents and stay here! We really don't need to go back down there!"


    This is it exactly. Being a church musician is a semi-monastic vocation in a sense. No wonder the monks live a life apart. The music of the Church demands no less. I'm starting to think it must take a lifetime to master the EF propers. Every year singing them gets a little easier, but then you realize there are so many other issues that must be addressed. I think I started this whole venture about thirty years too late. LOL!
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Imagine having to memorize them because staff lines hadn't been invented yet.
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  • francis
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    Imagine having to memorize them because staff lines hadn't been invented yet.
    That's what I call 'source and summit'.
  • gregpgregp
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    In a related matter, after 5 years, for me, the calendar has become somewhat internalized. I don't think in terms of months and vacation days, but in terms of seasons and propers. Weird!
  • CharlesW
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    Same here on the calendar. I deal with it so much that I think in terms of church time rather than secular time.
  • Ditto to the last two comments. My calendar revolves around the liturgical year. We get to relive so much with our Lord that way.

    The "theme", if you will, of any given mass has become the introit for me. Hard for me not to think of a Sunday and not hear the introit.
  • SalieriSalieri
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    Ditto with the Calendar, and I think some of the choir are feeling like that, too.

    Imagine having to memorize them because staff lines hadn't been invented yet.


    It works. I forgot to photocopy the Alleluia (non vos relinquam) for next Sunday from the GR for our pick-up rehearsal after Mass this past Sunday - So we learned it by ear (i.e. the Alleluia & its Jubilus). I'm considering just giving them the paleography at the regular rehearsal Thursday, and seeing what happens! (Excepting that the melody given by Solesmes is slightly different form that given by St. Gall)
  • francis
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  • PaixGioiaAmorPaixGioiaAmor
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    Funny thing. I'm usually so irritated at something the choir or cantor did that I can't wait to trek across the street and get a cup of coffee and an omlet after the choir mass (the last mass) and forget about whatever has irritated me on that particular day.

    What is this feeling of not wanting to leave heaven of which you speak?
  • CharlesW
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    Hehehe! PGA, I know that feeling well. ROFL.
  • JulieCollJulieColl
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    Sounds like us, PGA! We like to camp out at the local Panera's after Mass and bask in the gemutlichness.
  • veromaryveromary
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    When I go to my Mum's parish I have to wait around after Mass for the Divine Office to finish before she comes out. I try remember to save her a piece of cake.

    Sometimes I'd like to have something like that straight after Mass, but maybe wait until my little kidlets are a bit more grown up.
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  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
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    My full-time job isn't always conducive to sleeping, and every Saturday, I arrange to sing the Divine Office at a local chapel with a good friend of mine. I'm always exhausted, right up to the "Deus, in Adjutorium Meum" . . . and then I'm instantly reinvigorated.

    There was a study in a monastery (whose name escapes me) after the Second Vatican Council. They had dropped daily chanting of the office, and the brothers were having trouble operating on their sleep schedule and diet. They found that their health problems ceased as soon as they resumed daily chant.

    So yeah - I get into the bubble during mass, most because it's my only time during the week of health and sanity.
  • JulieCollJulieColl
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    Stimson, thanks for the reminder about this great story! It's in Katherine Le Mee's book, Chant. I'm looking at it now; it occurred at a Benedictine monastery in France in the early 1960's. After the elimination of chant from the Divine Office, the monks became extremely tired and prone to illness.

    The abbot allowed them more rest, but they became even more tired. They even switched to a meat and potatoes diet although vegetarianism had been their rule for 700 years.

    In February, 1967, Dr. Tomatis was invited to see if he could help. He said that when he arrived, "seventy of the ninety monks were slumping in their cells like wet dish rags." He found that they were not only tired, but their hearing had declined.

    His solution was to use a device called an Electronic Ear for several months and to re-institute daily chant immediately. Within nine months, the health of most of the monks was returned to normal and they could resume their regular regimen of long prayer sessions, few hours of sleep at night and demanding physical work.

    Dr. Tomatis' theory is that a well-tuned ear is able to stimulate the brain---but not all sounds are beneficial.

    Modern research identifies two kinds of sounds, known as "discharge" sounds which tire and fatigue the listener, and others, known as "charge" sounds, which give energy and health and which have the power, like his Electronic Ear, to re-awaken the hearing and recharge the mind and body with energy.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    I can't imagine why you would just nix chanting in a monastery.

    What the hell was everybody thinking in the 60s?
    Seriously.
  • Thinking?
    They weren't.
    It was a Robespierrean liturgical reign of terror.
    Out with anything that smacked of the ancien regime.

    Gorgeous altar missals were thrown into garbage cans. (Yes, really! they actually were.)
    Priceless vestments, thuribles, monstrances, and other such were thrown out, sold to antique dealers, or given to the Episcopalians who were thrilled to have them. My own Episcopalian parish at that time was the recipient of solemn sets of vestments in all liturgical colours that would make you awe and gaze unbelievably at their beauty and workmanship.

    We know what happened to music. One day the guitarists showed up and usurped the place of music at mass. They just took over one day... sort of like those green men in the Crimea. Even those few priests who thought that their music wasn't appropriate didn't have the backbone to tell them so, much less forbid them. Such backbone is to this day reserved only for saying 'no' to lovers of chant and real church music, ancient or modern. I have met priests who went through those times who said they had begged to be taught to sing at seminaries and were told in no uncertain terms 'no, we no longer have any use for that'.

    Statuary was tossed out in a manner that would have pleased the Puritans of England's inter-regnum. Beautiful marble sanctuaries were white-washed, frescoes and mosaics painted over. The altars were dis-used, and in their place was, again, a shabby communion table that would have made the Puritans' day. These poseurs of progress are now much older and occupy positions of power and influence in our seminaries and universities, or as important pastors, or as bishops yet, and they are still at it. They will manage with all the artifice at their disposal to make life difficult for any whom they regard as undoing their revolution, bringing back anything at all, no matter how meritorious, that they got rid of.

    But, much good was done in spite of this cultural suicide, not the least being that we can worship in our own language as well as in Latin (and, it really is meant to be 'both/and'). And, while we work hard to recapture that of our heritage which was discarded with too little thought by personages too immature, and to achieve an evolutionary continuum instead of a revolutionary rupture, the air is different, and, I think, more congenial to us. We (most of us) would not want things to be exactly as they were. For one thing, the laity are no longer the ignorant peasants of yore, and it isn't seemly that they should be regarded as such. There was a very oppressive facet of clericalism that we have, I should like to think, outgrown; though there are certain clerics, regarding themselves as a sort of privileged caste, not altogether unlike the Indian Brahmins, who yet think otherwise.
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