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Yes, that's the advice I heard from Brian Murphy who runs the Cambiata Choir in Dublin.

There's quite some educational research on this:

https://nafme.org/blog…

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In Rome? Was that in the Pontifical Institute? Our choir (we can call ourselves a schola soon :) ) uses the PIMS videos by Fr. Robert Mehlhart.

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Thanks @MatthewRoth - all that TypeIt needs now is a speech renderer so I know what those symbols sound like. I must check out ipa-reader.com . Heck, what I also want is a speech-to-IPA ASR app. ;)

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@continuousbass Ah-men as the A sound (as in day) is for the letter e.
Latin:English a:ah (~am), e:ay (d~ay), i:ee (b~eef), o:aw (c~ot) u:oo (f~ood)
(I know, it would be better in IPA…

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We're singing Veni,Veni all in Latin, so that was the pronunciation convention I was asking about.

@M. Jackson Osborn by '-ees' do you mean the 'Is-' of Israe…

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Off topic, the vowel-consonant thing reminds me of a late beloved choir director who said he did not want runts or wusses. Referring to (Messiah) 'Faw runto wuss a child is born'.

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@A_F_Hawkins That sounds plausible, I was in the UK in the early 1970s and may have heard it there. Do you know of any recordings of the Bévenot tones? I found this, at 11:55 https://www.youtube.com/…

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Thanks @monasteryliturgist, it might be something I half-remembered from the 1970s.

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I had just ordered it from amazon.ie yesterday! I thought hardback would wear better.

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Thanks, CGM. I heard back from Jeff, who apologised for the video being inaccessible, but said that it had been deleted. I think it's simply marked private, but never mind, with that CMA link o…

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I moved a piece down a tone (PIMS Fr. Robert Mehlhart starts Sanctus VIII on F, we start at Eb) because the majority of my chant (not SATB) group are altos rather than sopranos. It helps a bit but I&…

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I think that most Palestrina masses are on cpdl.org in MIDI or even MusicXML so I would import it to Musescore, transpose in three clicks if needed, and press } enough times to widen the measures if…

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Yes, for some reason I had thought this forum was connected to CCW. Did I mention that I'm new to this? :) I'll find Jeff Ostrowski.

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The insta comments are delicious ;)

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As a beginner chant leader, I have some questions on the music which I hope the experts can help with.
I know they didn't have keys in those days, but modes. As I'm transcribing into…

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Thanks, John, I had started the original chant version and now see why it is harder. I must note to use your version next year.

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I appreciate all the contributions. This is an ordinary parish choir, I think 'interim' here may mean my entire term of ministry :-)

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I see that Communion antiphons are part of the Proper of the Mass for that Sunday.
We are going to start in small steps with Mass VIII thanks to @WJA on this forum for a guide, and CCWatershed…

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That is so nice, @smvanroode, I won't even need to reformat them!
Thank you.

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