Robert

New St. Basil Hymnal
davids: Thanks, looked into a but more closely...the "familiar" refrain is in the St. Pius X hymnal (1953), but then the verses are different. So it may be differing translations from the German rather than tinkering.

Comment by Robert January 2020 permalink
New St. Basil Hymnal
I use this hymnal quite a bit. Overall it is very well done, especially considering the era it was created. At the same time it can be frustrating: -many well-known melodies differ slightly from what is most familiar. For example, the "old&quo…

Comment by Robert January 2020 permalink
Credo II, V and VII
According to Justine Ward (for what it's worth): Credo I. The best according to Dom Mocquereau. Credo V. The next best. Credo VI. The next best. Credo III. Frankly modern but unobjectionable. Credo IV. Not Gregorian Chant but the soprano voice…

Comment by Robert December 2019 permalink
Next Gregorian Mass setting to learn?
In this circumstance I would go with Mass XVII (with Kyrie C). Sounds like you have people to win over. Compared to Mass XI (Orbis Factor), Mass XVII sounds bright and cheerful, without being overly jubilant - this makes it well suited for Advent an…

Comment by Robert December 2019 permalink
How to interpret the newer chant books
madorganist - I think it is supposed to apply to those neumes yes. The effect may be very subtle (I believe Dom Jean Claire said that the difference in value is similar to the difference between a syllable that is a vowel only and a syllable that is…

Comment by Robert April 2018 permalink
How to interpret the newer chant books
I agree M. Jackson Osborn - battles of interpretation are so tedious and pointless. Live and let live, pick the interpretation you like and make it sound good, and don't turn it into dogma. I would note that interpreting the quilisma the way y…

Comment by Robert March 2018 permalink
How to interpret the newer chant books
The introduction to Liber Hymnarius is where you want to look. That particular neume is how a salicus is represented in the new books. Analyzing this form, we see that the middle note is identical in form to an oriscus; the last two notes (oriscus+…

Comment by Robert March 2018 permalink
Composers take a look
I know that at least one person in a position to influence the contents of this new volume reads and posts to this forum. For your consideration!: Please, please take this opportunity to include Healy Willan's Missa Sancta Maria Magdalena, as …

Comment by Robert July 2016 permalink
Media Vita in Morte Sumus
Etc., etc., etc.....

Comment by Robert July 2016 permalink
Gradual Dirigatur in Graduale Triplex
This isn't a scan from the Triplex, but it's basically the same thing: http://gregorien.info/music/gr-dirigatur.pdf

Comment by Robert May 2016 permalink
Giovanni Vianini's Schola Gregoriana Mediolanensis
Vilyanor: http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2015/01/good-news-for-new-year-new-church-for.html#.VrXiGYStZJE

Comment by Robert February 2016 permalink
Solfege worksheets?
This is a fantastic resource for solfege exercises, with downloadable pdfs and audio clips: http://www.fsspolgs.org/liturgical3.html

Comment by Robert January 2016 permalink
Ordinary Form Latin Vespers
If you decide you need to do OF Vespers, you could assemble your own resource using the material under discussion in another active thread: http://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/13271/oco-1983-antiphonal-copyright-issues#Item_21 in which f…

Comment by Robert January 2016 permalink
Ordinary Form Latin Vespers
The difference in length between EF and OF vespers in practice isn't as much as you might think - two fewer psalms in OF, sure, but there's a longer reading, the intercessions, and the Our Father to take into account. For OF you're l…

Comment by Robert January 2016 permalink
Ave Regina Caelorum on February 2nd
Alma Redemptoris ends with second Vespers of the Candlemas, so I would think that during a Mass that takes place between the usual times for Vespers and Compline Ave Regina would be more appropriate.

Comment by Robert January 2016 permalink
Ordinary Form Latin Vespers
All you need is the Antiphonale Romanum II (Vesperale) which can be ordered here: http://www.paracletepress.com/antiphonale-romanum-ii.html or here https://www.giamusic.com/search_details.cfm?title_id=17404 Alternately, there is this resource: …

Comment by Robert January 2016 permalink
Solesmes method help
JulieColl - 1) The horizontal episema last appeared in the Liber Hymnaries, where (confusingly) it was not supposed to indicate an ictus. Subsequent publications (Antiphonale Monasticum, Antiphonale Romanum) don't have the horizontal episema.…

Comment by Robert December 2015 permalink
Solesmes method help
Dom Mocquereau (who more or less invented the concept) on whether the ictus is more in the mind than in the voice: The ictus indicating the grouping of notes should be rendered as in any music of legato character, namely with infinite gradations of…

Comment by Robert December 2015 permalink
Simple Latin Propers, Richard Rice
Just a note of appreciation to Mr. Rice for his work on this. Used these this morning and they were a lifesaver for a choir with limited rehearsal time (and ability!). These compositions are very true to the authentic Gregorian style. Many thanks!

Comment by Robert October 2015 permalink
Matthew in the Pre-Vatican II Lectionary
Liam wrote: the preconciliar lectionary for Sundays demonstrated a preference (not exclusive) for the Gospel of St Matthew among the Synoptics, but St Luke was also well represented - St Mark was nearly absent. This brings up an interesting quest…

Comment by Robert September 2015 permalink
John Romeri and Abp. Chaput
The inspiration for the "Celtic Alleluia" is undoubtedly the 3/4 time Gaelic Christmas carol Taladh Chriosda: https://youtu.be/nj44ICE_AAg The original is authentically, hauntingly "Celtic" in flavour, while the major-key imita…

Comment by Robert May 2015 permalink
Font Facts
Bembo = Catholic:

Comment by Robert May 2015 permalink
Humming the liquescent neumes? Resources and scholarship?
@incantu - I don't read Cardine as saying this in _Beginning Studies_. He is says that the clivis with episema would be lengthened if it's cadential, but goes on to say that if it occurs in the middle of a phrase this is not the case: &quo…

Comment by Robert April 2015 permalink
Hymns for Matins/Lauds in OF for Triduum
HT and GF OoR: Pange, lingua... proelium / Lauds: En acetum Audio: http://liberhymnarius.org/index.php/Pange_lingua..._proelium http://liberhymnarius.org/index.php/En_acetum (More or less this: http://gregobase.selapa.net/chant.php?id=463) HS Oo…

Comment by Robert March 2015 permalink
Question about Compline hymn
Interesting to see this thread spring back to life all of a sudden. Since 2008 I've learned the answer to my question above...the new verses in the LOTH are spliced in from another ancient Compline hymn, Christe precamur annue.

Comment by Robert March 2015 permalink
Youth Vespers
Is the old rite easier? Yes. Does that mean we should make up our own service? No! There is a fairly longstanding practice in some places however of using the structure of old vespers but using the proper Magnificat antiphon, collect and in some c…

Comment by Robert July 2014 permalink
Monastic Diurnal p. 214
Thank you so much!

Comment by Robert July 2014 permalink
Detailed Notes on the English Translation(s) of the Graduale Romanum etc.
No offense, but this is tendentious--much ado about editorial decisions the average person simply does not care about. It is embarrassingly obvious that the amount of virtual ink spilled on this highly rarified subject is all about un-edifying compe…

Comment by Robert May 2014 permalink
Tristropha: duration or rearticulation?
In a live acoustical environment, repercussion helps to mitigate the effect of a repeated pitch building up into an unintended excessive lingering crescendo that could create unwanted dissonances with subsequent pitches.

Comment by Robert March 2014 permalink
Tonus Peregrinus accompaniment
http://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/9615/

Comment by Robert March 2014 permalink

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