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J. Fallon w/ T. Gross: ‘This is too much for me.’ I want the old way.
To link in with an analogy from a different culture: Next to studying Gregorian chant and semiology, I have studied and learned a very old Indian vocal tradition, called Dhrupad (Dagar-family tradition). Before it was adopted by the Mogul courts, i…

Comment by martin December 2011 permalink
listen to semiological solistic Gregorian: offertories with verses, Graduale, Alleluia
I will ask a friend about how to get you separate tracks. Concerning your last remark, a phone book would seem an insurmountable challenge to recite and not fall asleep. Going back on the similarity of our approaches, where did you get he mustard?…

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
listen to semiological solistic Gregorian: offertories with verses, Graduale, Alleluia
A little follow-up on the last question in the last post: I have noticed, over the years, in the various media available, a significant reluctance to discuss performance practice related issues. It seems no problem to go to great lengths discussing …

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
listen to semiological solistic Gregorian: offertories with verses, Graduale, Alleluia
Incantus, how about those questions i asked in my third post from the top? As to your last post: sure, some added letters or signs seem to have been entered by the original scribe as a memory-aid, as a note to not make a particular error. Apart …

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
listen to semiological solistic Gregorian: offertories with verses, Graduale, Alleluia
About your idea that inconsistencies in the semitone areas might be a result of poor vocalism, I have a feeling you might be turning things around. I think, rather the other way around, that given what kinds of music people are familiar with, what …

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
listen to semiological solistic Gregorian: offertories with verses, Graduale, Alleluia
Hi, I just listened to 'Gaudeamus' on euouae and I agree as to the similarity in some aspects and healthy little local differences in approach, but in a general sense there is the same forwardness going on. Nowadays I much doubt whether th…

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
listen to semiological solistic Gregorian: offertories with verses, Graduale, Alleluia
Thanks Robert, though I hear every now and then little slips and things I would do different these days, I can, at a distance of 22 years, hear at least many things that I think should be present in Chant. Clarity, stability, fluency and then add so…

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listen and read: Dominique Vellard sings Offertory Veritas mea, V1,2
Thanks for the links, it so happens that I like this 'earthy' way of singing as well, but I would not apply this aesthetic to any of the Gregorian dialects. The group sound is tight and resonant but as soon one sings a solo line it sounds …

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
listen and read: Dominique Vellard sings Offertory Veritas mea, V1,2
To miacoyne: If you would open the address: http://www.gregoriana.nl/0200engels.htm at news: you will see a clickable link to 'scores for tenth century chant' in the introduction a chronological sequence over the ages of chantbooks …

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Gregorian chant books
This is most impressive, and a killer for those who love lists, in the sense in which Umberto Eco loves them. I forwarded th link to a more knowledgeable friend of mine who was as much more amazed as he can value the info better. our compliments!

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
listen and read: Dominique Vellard sings Offertory Veritas mea, V1,2
Ok, when I say 'revolutionary' that's very much from my point of vieuw. This recording was a turning point for me, without it, I would not have gotten involved, I don't think. But even when it's true that the scholarship beh…

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
Printed Graduale based on semiological principles
here's a link to an overvieuw with short clips of the tracks, in a couple of days I should be able to post a link to a complete offertory. http://www.muziekweb.nl/Link/DJX0481

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
Printed Graduale based on semiological principles
When I described part of Gert's method of transcription, to wit, that no interpretation is involved in the transfer to the 4-line staff of the Cantatorium 339 neumes, I saw that as a positive bit of information. You seem to be of a diferent opi…

Comment by martin November 2011 permalink
Printed Graduale based on semiological principles
Just tried to quirk me again, the moment i push add your comments it does not know me anymore and tells me I have to log in! Phooey! Anyway, log in again and try again to paste it in quick enough! How I got in to Fluxus and more: In 1986 (I wa…

Comment by martin October 2011 permalink
Printed Graduale based on semiological principles
hmm. I seem to have a tricky connection, as twice an answer got lost in cyberspace through some quirk or other, but my time's run out now, I'll just say that next time I'll compose my message elsewhere and then paste it in not to lo…

Comment by martin October 2011 permalink
Printed Graduale based on semiological principles
Some remarks by Incantu as made above got me thinking, what are the requirements for a performance edition? What would be the most important elements one would like to convey by a state-of-the-art 'edition'? To give an example, as a follow…

Comment by martin October 2011 permalink
Printed Graduale based on semiological principles
Hi, May I join in? I'm new around here, I'm from Amsterdam and have been using all of the above, specificly the Graduale Lagal by CF Hakkennes and Fluxus by Geert Maessen. I'm familiar with the orginal notations of the 10 century an…

Comment by martin October 2011 permalink

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