trentonjconn

English hymn in honor of Saint Mary Magdalene (draft, feedback requested)
The thing which stands out to me most when trying to sing it is the somewhat awkward stress pattern in some of the words, as others have pointed out above. Sister, for example, would have to be sung as "sis-TER" in verse two, "choos-I…

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The Church's ONE Foundation
...that one could read and sing this text as a rebuttal to the Church's Petrine authority... I have wondered this myself, but I do use it...

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Wer nur den lieben Gott lässt walten: who arranged this?
Thank you Patrick! Exactly the info I was looking for. Saw the film in undergrad and that scene has lived in my mind ever since.

Comment by trentonjconn July 2025 permalink
How to fit Faure Requiem into All Souls Day Mass NO
after 2nd reading, the Pie Jesu (mvt.4) as a sequence before the Alleluia Is this licit?

Comment by trentonjconn June 2025 permalink
Credo I Hymnal 1940: Ordinariate Version?
Ah, that's disappointing indeed! I'll write in. Tangent here, but I've been wondering what sort of ordinaries will be included as well. Do you know? If so, could you list them either here or via PM?

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Grand Rapids, Mich.
If only there were...a universal liturgical language we could use...you know? (Purple)

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Grand Rapids, Mich.
More of a Panda Express man myself...

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Veni Sancte Spiritus in English - traditional melody?
A few things first, for the sake of clarity. What you are doing is laudable; nobody is questioning that. Bringing chant and tradition to those who would not otherwise experience it is a very praiseworthy thing. I've worked mostly in small OF pa…

Comment by trentonjconn June 2025 permalink
Veni Sancte Spiritus in English - traditional melody?
I would appreciate hearing your opinion as to why vernacular psalm tone propers are distasteful? Psalm tone propers exist as an emergency measure to technically fulfill the requirement of a proper being sung with the least musical preparation possi…

Comment by trentonjconn June 2025 permalink
Veni Sancte Spiritus in English - traditional melody?
The Lalemant setting is a psalm tone. Setting and singing this well-known sequence to a psalm tone would be a shame, in my opinion. I would encourage you to learn and sing the authentic melody.

Comment by trentonjconn June 2025 permalink
Another internecine war
Perhaps, but the degree to which one can deviate in the OF is greater than the degree which one can deviate in the EF. Full sung Mass with Gregorian propers and organ to spoken Mass with guitars and folk music is a much greater leap that full proper…

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Another internecine war
I'm sorry to hear this, Kevin. Poor Father. This is not the first time he's fought this battle and been punished and moved for it. Witnessing his previous battle and trying to continue working at the parish in the aftermath were key factor…

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Is a vernacular gradual (chant) licit?
My distaste for the inclusion of Cranmerian prayers aside, I think that there are many things in the Ordinariate Mass which would dismay Cranmer greatly...

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Whither Papal Singing?
It's par for the course, in my experience. Clerics rarely sing their parts in a consistent manner in the OF. It's treated in a very ad libitum fashion. I'll sing this collect, but maybe not the post communion. Or maybe I'll sing …

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Is a vernacular gradual (chant) licit?
Smarty pants. I’ve never met anyone so rude on this forum. ...is this necessary?

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Is a vernacular gradual (chant) licit?
the tune of Deutschland Deustchland über alles Mildly off topic, but there is nothing objectional about this tune. It predates the text you mention considerably.

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Is a vernacular gradual (chant) licit?
Francis, if these are leading questions designed to imply the superior pedigree of the EF, then yes, the EF clearly is a much more historical and organic (and dare I say better) form of the Mass. I don't think that anyone disputes that the Ordi…

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Is a vernacular gradual (chant) licit?
(*However, if the Ordinariate really endorsed a collection of psalm-toned propers…yikes.) I despise psalm toned propers, but I'll go to bat here for the St. Peter Gradual. Many Ordinariate communities are (or begin as) small under-resourced gr…

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Is a vernacular gradual (chant) licit?
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Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Is a vernacular gradual (chant) licit?
if those present are well trained in Gregorian chant Big "if" there!

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Rift in Music Ministry
It is in the CGM comment above, Francis.

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Is a vernacular gradual (chant) licit?
also find it encourages a degree of congregational participation This is bad, though! The people should not sing the propers! I'm DM at an ordinariate parish where what you describe was common practice before I took over. We now use the full …

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Rift in Music Ministry
Don't cave! If she doesn't want to sing the good stuff, she can sit and pout silently in the pews!

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Pater Noster
why isn’t it more of a common composition amongst composers like the Ave Maria is? I'd imagine that this is because it was/is sung by the celebrant alone in the EF. The Ave appears in the propers and whatnot.

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
The Choir Organ MIDI Module
Are these still available?

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Please tell me about your funeral choirs
We're an ordinariate parish which, when it comes to planning funerals, tends to be more EF than OF. I previously worked in the OF world for years and funerals tended to be just about the least musically rewarding aspect of the job, unfortunatel…

Comment by trentonjconn May 2025 permalink
Please tell me about your funeral choirs
As DM, I just cantor and play them myself. As with weddings, I'd use a quartet recruited from among the ranks of my choir if anything more involved were requested, but that has yet to happen. The requiem ordinaries and propers are sung, and the…

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Pope Leo XIV
The bread and the wine?

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Upgrading to Better Organ Shoes
Certainly not...

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Behaviorism and its influence on active participation
Cushing's Latin...oh boy...

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