contemporaryworship92

Palm Sunday
interpolated hymns during the reading of the gospel of the passion To add: within the context of a Catholic Mass, this is a genuinely crazy idea. This would be a very significant matter of liturgical abuse. The Liturgy of the Word, as with the Litu…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 20 permalink
Palm Sunday
to interpolated hymns during the reading of the gospel of the passion Readings at a Catholic Mass should never be substituted or supplemented by hymns.

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 20 permalink
Obnoxious congregational singer
Can you and your choir play/sing louder, and at least somewhat drown her out? There are multiple theories of how loud a choir should be. I'm not saying I agree with this but according to some the choir should be loud enough that everyone in t…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 15 permalink
Sang “Hail Mary: Gentle Woman” at a funeral today…
Politically incorrect opinion: Hail Mary, Gentle Woman is a good song, at least if your parish is playing any music from the folk music era. It's by far one of the best folk style liturgical songs. It has an uneven meter because it's pro…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 5 permalink
Whose Mass is it anyway? Some critical observations on the Novus Ordo liturgy
I think that many pastors do not have this level of control over the liturgy. Most pastors let their choir director choose the music with minimal oversight. And pastors are usually under some degree of financial constraint, given that collection con…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 3 permalink
Anyone Familiar with Paul Gibson’s “A Christmas Mass”?
OCP and GIA have several published pieces between them that attempt to turn Angels We Have Heard on High into the actual Gloria. After listening to all of them I've concluded that doing this successfully is impossible. I think the least bad att…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 December 2025 permalink
Gloria that does not repeat refrain
Some options from the legacy publishing companies: Mass of Renewal by Curtis Stephan https://ocp.org/en-us/collections/dg/24/mass-of-renewal Mass of Renewal by by William Gokelman and David Kauffman https://www.goodforthesoulmusic.com/mass-of-rene…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 December 2025 permalink
* When do you just give up?
Important discernment question: is your struggle with the pastor, or with the congregation? If you and your pastor share a vision, but you have a difficult congregation, that's a challenge you can solve slowly, if you're willing to do th…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 September 2025 permalink
Lamentations and Observations of a Gregorian Greenhorn (My Story as a Young Catholic Musician)
I'm not sure who you're talking to here. No one I know thinks that a beautiful liturgy exhausts all efforts at evangelization, or that it somehow excuses anyone from interacting with people. In fact, this shows that liturgy and evangeliza…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 August 2025 permalink
Lamentations and Observations of a Gregorian Greenhorn (My Story as a Young Catholic Musician)
Charles you have good intentions and I imagine this is a frustrating experience. To echo some of the thoughts above, I suggest being more strategic in your management of your political capital. I was labeled a “purist” and “traditionalist,” but I w…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 August 2025 permalink
Market Pivot Toward Tradition in OCP's Heritage Missal
Ugh - are we at that point where “They’ll Know We are Christians” is now considered “traditional”? As is right and just! We’re now at that point where, “Here I am, Lord” is considered “traditional” by Gen Xers and Xennials Reasonably likely this …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 July 2025 permalink
General Resource for Catholic Choir music
Possibly a bit of a tangent from what you are looking for, but since the conversation has drifted in this direction: pretty much every liturgy planning guide I am aware of is terrible. Even when the song suggestions are theologically unobjectionable…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
This has been discussed here many times, but the upshot is that it is not sustainable: a new pastor or bishop can upend years of work. The story has been told so many times here and elsewhere that it's a little surprising to see this offered wi…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I substantially disagree with this in particular. I believe we all have the ability to significantly improve the Novus Ordo liturgy in our own local communities simply by showing up. Volunteer for a choir, for a liturgy committee, take a part time …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
Oh gosh no Tell me more!

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I have made a thorough case for the restoration of the Roman Rite and the rejection of the "banal on the spot fabrication" of liturgists from the 1960s. This case should be judged on its own merits rather than dismissed out of hand.Here�…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
@ProfKwasniewski, On the other hand, I think it's reasonable to discuss where the committee that created the Novus Ordo didn't follow their directions, made bad prudential decisions, or simply did bad things with ulterior motives. I think …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
@ProfKwasniewski I've been meaning to reply to your comments for awhile now, and this is the first time in awhile I've had the time to put a proper rebuttal together. What I find most interesting in some of the comments here is the comp…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 June 2025 permalink
Journeysings —thoughts?
Having previously served at a parish with Journeysongs, I think it's the best option available from OCP or GIA. It has pretty much every hymn you would want and *most* of the modern music is good. Notably good modern songs in Journeysongs: -C…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 2025 permalink
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Why use many words when few words do trick

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 2025 permalink
Pope Leo XIV
What are the only two things that don't change at a Jesuit Mass?

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 2025 permalink
Hymn for Pope Leo!
I made a version of Christus Vincit with English verses. Feel free to use.

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 2025 permalink
Pope Leo XIV
Synodality applied evenly and fairly should result in everyone getting a fair hearing on matters of liturgy.

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
@contemporaryworship92 Moral theology disputes or dissent are not germane. I push back on Peter when necessary, even publicly. I would sit this one out. I'm not sure if I follow your point here. Is your claim that we can bracket PK's appa…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
This might best be the subject of another thread, but: To the best that I can tell, Peter Kwasniewski is presently a dissenting theologian. Does the CMAA, NLM, this forum, et. al. stand for doing what the Church asks with the liturgy, or does it …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
As important as the music is, it is even more important to preserve the texts of the Mass I agree so far , and this is what is done when proper antiphons are sung in the vernacular This is where I start to question whether the theory and the situat…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I would also like to draw attention to an important qualifier in the text of Musicam Sacram regarding the pride of place of Gregorian chant: 50. In sung liturgical services celebrated in Latin: (a) Gregorian chant, as proper to the Roman liturgy,…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I am willing to grant for the sake of argument that option 1 is the preferred option for Novus Ordo Masses celebrated entirely in Latin. This is very important. Whatever you may want to claim about hierarchical preference elsewhere, if the "h…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
The introduction of option 4 is a new concept in the construction of what music to use. I don't think this is the case. Musicam Sacram states the following: 32. The custom legitimately in use in certain places and widely confirmed by indults, …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
That does not mean selecting from among the options is a matter of indifference. I agree. I think there are very good reasons to prefer option 4 of the GIRM in hymn selection on Sundays where the antiphon text is unrelated to the reformed lectiona…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink

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