contemporaryworship92

Pope Leo XIV
What are the only two things that don't change at a Jesuit Mass?

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 2025 permalink
Hymn for Pope Leo!
I made a version of Christus Vincit with English verses. Feel free to use.

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 2025 permalink
Pope Leo XIV
Synodality applied evenly and fairly should result in everyone getting a fair hearing on matters of liturgy.

Comment by contemporaryworship92 May 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
@contemporaryworship92 Moral theology disputes or dissent are not germane. I push back on Peter when necessary, even publicly. I would sit this one out. I'm not sure if I follow your point here. Is your claim that we can bracket PK's appa…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
This might best be the subject of another thread, but: To the best that I can tell, Peter Kwasniewski is presently a dissenting theologian. Does the CMAA, NLM, this forum, et. al. stand for doing what the Church asks with the liturgy, or does it …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
As important as the music is, it is even more important to preserve the texts of the Mass I agree so far , and this is what is done when proper antiphons are sung in the vernacular This is where I start to question whether the theory and the situat…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I would also like to draw attention to an important qualifier in the text of Musicam Sacram regarding the pride of place of Gregorian chant: 50. In sung liturgical services celebrated in Latin: (a) Gregorian chant, as proper to the Roman liturgy,…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I am willing to grant for the sake of argument that option 1 is the preferred option for Novus Ordo Masses celebrated entirely in Latin. This is very important. Whatever you may want to claim about hierarchical preference elsewhere, if the "h…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
The introduction of option 4 is a new concept in the construction of what music to use. I don't think this is the case. Musicam Sacram states the following: 32. The custom legitimately in use in certain places and widely confirmed by indults, …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
That does not mean selecting from among the options is a matter of indifference. I agree. I think there are very good reasons to prefer option 4 of the GIRM in hymn selection on Sundays where the antiphon text is unrelated to the reformed lectiona…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
The GIRM is quite plain that option one is to sing from the GR. This would very self-evidently include ordinary time. Option 1 can mean "preferred option" or it can mean "first in numerical order." Absent further instruction fro…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
I would trust the most "trivial" choices of text for a given Sunday, passed down through the centuries, over my own subjective choice 100% of the time. I'm only referring to what's been handed down since 1969. My comments aren&#…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
What it comes down to is whether we want to submit ourselves to the texts that have been handed down to us and trust Holy Mother Church (option 1) or supplant said texts with something we subjectively as individuals believe to be superior (option 4)…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
Paradoxically, many of antiphons currently in the NO would fail this criterion for how their text relates to the rest of that day's liturgy. So it seems to me that the texts of the Vatican II documents and the GIRM anticipate composers writing…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
NB I do not want to provoke a discussion on the merits/demerits of the NO. There is a particular problem with the ancient propers and the 'chants between the readings' in the NO. Traditionally these were reflective pieces, meditations almo…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
“It’s easy to mistake emotional manipulation for a movement of God, right?”
I think it's straightforwardly obvious that God communicates with us through our feelings, and our thoughts, and sometimes both. We need discernment to be able to recognize *when* it's God communicating to us, vs. what is of merely human o…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
“It’s easy to mistake emotional manipulation for a movement of God, right?”
I read the entire article. The headline is somewhat click-baity. The central thesis of the article appears to be: “Emotional manipulation in a worship service is like a shepherd leading people to certain pastures without knowing why,” wrote Zac Hic…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
The Hymnal Industrial Complex
This article is almost completely wrong about what's wrong in the Catholic music industry. The discussion about OneLicense "controlling" Catholic music is non-sensical and most likely reveals that the author has never used OneLicense.…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 March 2025 permalink
Feast of the Baptism of the Lord in the Church’s calendar in the US
1. Fake news for the most part in liturgical terms, Anyone know where this popular belief arose from then? Surely other people on here have also encountered people who believe this?

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2025 permalink
Feast of the Baptism of the Lord in the Church’s calendar in the US
This article claims that the Third Epiphany used to be part of Epiphanytide and that this got messed up in the liturgical reform: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2021/01/06/epiphanytide-and-the-three-epiphanies/ Was Epiphanytide historically se…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2025 permalink
Feast of the Baptism of the Lord in the Church’s calendar in the US
Making Christmastide *longer* is a solution in search of a problem. I've been told many times that Christmas traditionally lasts up until Candlemass. Is that fake news? I don't understand what it's currently doing in the middle of Or…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2025 permalink
Feast of the Baptism of the Lord in the Church’s calendar in the US
In my opinion we need to make the Christmas season end with the Feast of the Presentation on February 2nd again. To do this we need to add 1-2 weeks of extra Sundays in Christmas. One of the these extra Sundays should come from making the Wedding at…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2025 permalink
I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say (Baptism of the Lord)
Alternatively, this small variant: ------------------------------------ 1. I heard the prophet's voice cry out "Prepare for Christ the way; Make straight for Him thy crooked paths For the Kingdom comes today" I came to (the) Jordan …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2025 permalink
I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say (Baptism of the Lord)
Rhyming is an improvement (as is currently being discussed elsewhere about Benediction hymns), but you've fallen into a pitfall of not following the original meter. I heard the voice uses the meter 8686D, i.e. the lines alternate eight and six …

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2025 permalink
O Salutaris Hostia/ Tantum Ergo newly mandated English texts
They mandated that OCP use this new translation in their hymnals? I certainly can appreciate formal equivalence but this is strong medicine...I'd have a hard time bringing myself to use something this unlyrical.

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2025 permalink
I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say (Baptism of the Lord)
So I workedshopped this with a friend, and we made it all rhyme, at the expense of some paraphrasing: 1. I heard the prophet's voice cry out "Prepare for Christ the way; Make straight for Him thy crooked paths For the Kingdom comes today…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2025 permalink
Come Thou Long Expected Jesus - Advent Song?
Many Advent and Lenten hymns reference, either plainly or obliquely, the joys of the celebratory seasons to follow. There's nothing wrong with this. Yes, but: don't at least the vast majority of these songs avoid or only obliquely mention…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 August 2024 permalink
Contemporary worship music: How do editors intend their product to be used?
So what do other users of non-hymnal resources for congregational music usually do? Is my experience and difficulty at all typical, or is it more common to be able to take weirdly formatted downloads from sources such as PraiseCharts or SongSelect P…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 April 2024 permalink
Are the big publishers set up to fail?
It is their desire to drive everyone into the religion of KLOVE. OCP, GIA, and even the smaller ones are a one way bridge to abandonment of tradition. Point of order: the ideological landscape here is much more complex than this may imply. KLOVE i…

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2024 permalink
Spirit of Vatican II Hymn Written By ChatGPT
Don't forget the key change where you shift up a half step!

Comment by contemporaryworship92 January 2024 permalink

Welcome to the MusicaSacra Forum!

To participate in the discussions on Catholic church music, sign in or register as a forum member, The forum is a project of the Church Music Association of America.

About

Username: contemporaryworship92
Joined: March 2015
Visits: 548
Last Active: 8:35PM
Roles: Member
Posts: 323
Thanked: 319