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Office of Readings at Night Instead of Morning
Just plan on two 4-hour shifts of sleep. Apparently people lived that way for ages until the Industrial Revolution put us all on clock time.

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Office of Readings at Night Instead of Morning
In monastic usage, Compline is followed by the Great Silence, so praying another office immediately after it, and anticipating the next day, seems odd. Of course you could just pray the Office of Readings of the day before Compline; then put the …

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The Liturgical Day
Short answer: I don't know for sure, but I've seen it done, and my guess is that it was lawful to do so. The starting time for vigil Masses before a Sunday or Solemnity varies from diocese to diocese; in mine, vigil Masses for Sunday may…

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Different Gloria in the Canadian Missal
Msgr. Wadsworth mentioned this to us in his talk at Pittsburgh: ICEL offered its musical setting of the Mass Ordinary to the bishops' conferences, and some adopted it in full, and some in part. The US Missal differs from the ICEL setting too: …

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Discrepancy between Graduale Romanum and the New Translation
Yes, the difference between the Missale propers and the Graduale propers is often discussed here. (Ya could'a asked us and gotten an answer quicker!) The Missale propers for the Introit and Communion were apparently placed there (in the 1970 …

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Let All Mortal Flesh
I just whipped up this transcription and an audio file:

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Musica Sacra Missalette
Maybe things are better here, but I can't think of any parishes offhand using the old "Glory & Praise" book. Maybe about 20% of parishes use a hymnal, and the rest various disposables.

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*Mass setting publication questions?
Welcome, pianodiva413. I'll leave it to others to provide advice about your Mass setting, but if you'd like to know more about CMAA and the Church's ideals for sacred music, here's a FAQ document [in PDF] on the subject. --moder…

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Passion Narrative: Palm Sunday (Matthew) and Good Friday (John)
You can find the Latin gospels on CMAA's chant book page, http://musicasacra.com/communio/ , at "Cantus Passionis"; there you can download three books for three cantors (Narrator, Christ, Others). They are books for the old Mass an…

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Anglican chant tones
By the way, @nunsense, if you happen to represent Paraclete, let us know. I'm sure people have questions from time to time.

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A Letter To The ICEL
Well, I was not being totally serious in speaking about the privilege of having a distinct word for human beings of one or the other sex. Here's how Liturgiam authenticam treats the subject: 30. In many languages there exist nouns and pronoun…

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The meaning of iij in Gregorian chant
Well, I doubt they made it up. The idea has been circulating, and did appear in some book (as Mark M. mentioned above.)

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OCP Stranglehold...
[This thread went off-track for a while; I've tossed some of the comments.]

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A Letter To The ICEL
Some languages have three words for three categories: male human beings, female human beings, and generic human beings. In Latin, they are "vir", "mulier" and "homo". Medieval English had three words, too, but modern …

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Agnus Dei by Arvo Part
The Cantus for eight cellos in memory of Benjamin Britten is incredibly poignant.

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Peter Kolar new solo album
Great Music Of The Faith (Honky-Tonk Edition)

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Someone please explain this to me
Well, there are a lot of people with confused opinions and erroneous philosophies about the liturgy. There! That explains it! :-)

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tritone
He's railing against the introduction of the interval of a third; not perfect like the fourth and fifth.

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The meaning of iij in Gregorian chant
Yes, that book presents the same explanation, but it's not plausible that Latin speakers would write "again, again the jubilus" for a threefold repetition ("iterum iterum jubilus") and abbreviate it as "iij", when …

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Someone please explain this to me
It's hard to tell what this thread is about now. Is irishtenor responding to someone's statement praising some liturgist? If so, please post a link (preferably at the top of the thread).

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What were they thinking?
Exactly, Charles. "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" is not even a song about the country: it's about apocalyptic warfare. And the apocalyptic aspect of the song -- its identification of "our side" in war with divine justic…

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What were they thinking?
I wondered about that point too, Adam, as I was introducing the song. "Hymn" isn't the right word; "anthem" fits, I suppose. At least the song is about the high aspirations of the country, and not too triumphalistic. &q…

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Musica Sacra Missalette
I wonder if it might be practicable to make a business of designing music programs for parishes.

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Revised Grail Psalter and Copyright
Personally, I find the $1.7M figure plausible. If it represents a 5% royalty on sales, that would correspond to a $34M sales figure: a little under $2K, average, per parish. That's a plausible average budget for missalettes, right? It would …

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You are God: we praise you
Yeah: "Tu es Deus" or even "Tu Deus". I don't mean to be accusative here, :-) but ICET (the ecumenical counterpart to ICEL) was trying to produce modernized Simple English AND keep the basic word order. Changing the m…

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The meaning of iij in Gregorian chant
Cielito Lindo: Ay (iv) There's the story of how Pope John Paul II adopted the spelling "Joannes Paulus" upon his institution. The Vatican Latinist Reginald Foster (so the story goes) was producing the Latin text for a papal document…

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Writing your own Mass parts?
The underlined part is the guy's opinion, and I can't fault him for it (though I don't agree). So what's gobbledygook about it? it's clearer prose than the passage he quotes from the BCL newsletter!

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You are God: we praise you
Well, I think Scott was pointing out that the old-ICEL translation still in force is incorrect. Te Deum laudamus => "Thee, God, do we praise" To make this into two statements: "You are God; we praise you" is a stretch.

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Writing your own Mass parts?
Well, it states the facts correctly, doesn't it? The text is from this book.

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The meaning of iij in Gregorian chant
I'm skeptical about any long strings of "i"'s; maybe if we made up a book for Byzantine prayers, we'd have to include Kyrie eleison. (xii) -- oh, yeah: xij.

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