MatthewRoth

Congregational Chant Recordings
My only observation is that everyone sings the podatus at the "men" of "Amen" wherever it occurs after "saecula saeculorum" but the books prescribe, and pre-conciliar Solesmes sang, just the sole punctum. Perhaps a note…

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Clear Creek (Fontgombault) accompaniment instructions and key
Yes; as it happens, I knew that they used the LCCO, because of an old thread here, for things that are in there (although they don't change out the antiphonal for that for example). Time to make a visit to see about getting copies of some thing…

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Bridge-Building Hymns for NO wedding mass
In fact, at funerals at least in my old parish, the DM would do the gradual unless someone insisted. I would take the same approach for weddings if possible.

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Clear Creek (Fontgombault) accompaniment instructions and key
I also transcribed the offertory Recordare, also used on July 16 and perhaps on a couple of other feasts in local propers, as it was fully visible in the material sent from the abbey. (Sorry, I got the pages out of order on the copy machine when sca…

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Clear Creek (Fontgombault) accompaniment instructions and key
Yes. I should add that the gradual is like this. Ditto the antiphonal. I don't know what is lacking, however, in their own books (are there things which they never use and so no one notated an accompaniment? why occasionally solfège names but …

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Example Benediction materials
Thank you!

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The end of Finale®
The matching, legible hymns is important, and to your point, having a distinct style is good too. Well, don’t be like even major Parisian churches using goofy fonts. Be more like Serviam! Or me; I’m an EB Garamond guy, and I turn on the ligatures to…

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Divine Praises in Latin
I cleaned up the score so that it matches what's sung and have finally remembered to post it. We tried it out for the first time, and our people are enthusiastic, but it's pretty easy. Funnily enough, we had to use the original score, as t…

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The Memorial Acclamation
I don’t have a huge dog in the fight, but I would be OK only doing Mortem tuam or at worst the English. Having to guess the text or look at something right after the consecration is a pain. As to settings: it’s bizarre that it’s allowed given that …

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Full time vs. Part time
Not that we doubted your integrity before, but it’s nice to know good people even just via the web. Also, from experience: I can tell when a choir or organist is not prepared for Sunday or ordinary occasions but is prepared instead for major feasts…

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This is a disaster
In some ways we are spinning around after Fr Smith’s article (@chonak did he retract the first?? It is no longer found at the Chant Café.) I have some thoughts for another time and place, but while being attracted to reverent things is good, it’s n…

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Full time vs. Part time
Honestly one of the trad-but-not-quite things around here is the return of adoration where the priest handles the music, instead of arranging for the organist to do it (the timing actually works out in a few cases). Having the organ and a separate s…

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Christmas Vigil Mass Hymns
I adapted the Latin from the Liber Hymnarius to the usual melody for Of the Father’s Love Begotten, and I have it in gabc on my computer. I found that the beautiful melody really outweighed authenticity.

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What hymnal do you recommend for a TLM community?
We did IV on Sundays for a while to learn it. The ICRSP in Orléans is willing to do just about all the settings because they want to expose the faithful to all of them. They still avoid V, VI, and VII, but they mix it up with XII and XIII in partic…

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Full time vs. Part time
It's not ideal, but my schola haas people willing to practice at home when they can't make it to practice. They're volunteers! Also, it assumes choir members who are competent adults and able to behave as such (eg only need one remin…

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What hymnal do you recommend for a TLM community?
The problem with Mass IX is twofold from my perspective: it's infrequent, and the range is tricky. It's OK at the 10:00 Mass on Sundays or holy days where it's a Saturday or public holiday. It's not so OK in the morning (hello, R…

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Question for Ordinariate musicians, Re: Propers
yes, and I even have the scans on my computer, but I/we follow Mocquereau's rhythm, so while it works in a pinch, I need to think about adapting it to the Solesmes editions, because it is not so straightforward as adding the stem of a quarter n…

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Question for Ordinariate musicians, Re: Propers
To add to the above, while we had disintegrating Campion missals, our organist prefers Worship II or III (I think III but don’t quote me) for harmonizations along with the 1940. ILP has some options which would be OK for a parish interested in only …

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What hymnal do you recommend for a TLM community?
You’re best getting Cantus Selecti or building your own. When we have storage space, I’d rather have our own (spiral-bound) instead of making seasonal copies; I’d just add the page numbers to the Vespers sheet or put numbers on the board. For Mass…

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Next Ember Saturday - fasting and abstinence, or not?
The feast doesn’t remove the quality of fasting or abstinence. In fact for many centuries only Christmas day removed abstinence by way of an exception in the laws of fasting and abstinence. Of course, it’s not obligatory anyway.

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Question for Ordinariate musicians, Re: Propers
The reality is that the kids probably don't need the music teacher to use the 1940 as the primary source, no matter what one feels about it or how this attitude is expressed. Not all of the kids are necessarily in the Ordinariate or attending M…

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Mass Setting for Weekday Mass (OF)
I applaud all worthy efforts to supply such music for the Ordinary that the absence of an accompanist does not deprive the congregation of the ability to sing the Ordinary. Maybe my congregation is special but we mostly have chant ordinaries (exc…

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Sequence for Our Lady of Sorrows - English?
Luckily a feast of title still trumps many Sundays in the NO calendar (certainly green Sundays, maybe Easter ones after Low Sunday but excluding the Ascension where it is moved and certainly Pentecost; I seem to recall an ordinary parish whose exter…

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The end of Finale®
…it makes better sense to do it in Gregorio and paste in as a graphic. Charles Weaver is offering an introduction to Gregorio for CMAA members, on Oct. 21. (you have to scroll down and click through to find more info for this event, sorry).

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How would you adapt this antiphon to English? - Domine, Deus salutis meae
That doesn't actually answer the question. Are they not recognizable as Scripture even with variants? That'd be news to anyone who lived before the 1970s. It also gives far too much weight to textual criticism. Translate the Latin, and be …

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How would you adapt this antiphon to English? - Domine, Deus salutis meae
Yeah, I don't understand why people got hung up on the Scriptural parts when they could just translate the Latin regardless if it's the (Clementine) Vulgate, NV, a pre-Vulgate or other Vulgate variant… Antiphons made of Bible quotes usual…

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Come Thou Long Expected Jesus - Advent Song?
As an aside, Veni Redemptor gentiun was used at both seasons in different ways. Dom Lentini does not respect that in the corpus which he created for the Liturgia Horarum.

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The end of Finale®
I use Musescore (the app is now called Musescore Studio, just fyi). 4.4. was just released today. I like it, but it has its quirks. Since I use it to transcribe organ accompaniment and an occasional hymn, it's OK that it doesn't have real…

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Question for Ordinariate musicians, Re: Propers
And, 'Ordinariates are' NOT 'confused about their state of things'. Sometimes I think that criticism is not offered in perhaps the most polite or tactful manner… (see what Jerry has to say about broaching a subject in Seinfeld S…

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