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Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
-Roach is not very popular among the English bishops, as reported by the media they have reacted with dismay that he wishes to take the Church back to the 1970's. It did not work then and will not work now. He is from the generation of English…

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Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
The revised canon is now applicable to laity and clerics who do not have "subjects", i.e., do not hold ecclesiastical office. The Holy See is gearing up to enforce canonical penalties against those stoking disobedience. This is just so fun…

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Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
Straw man fallacy. Have a gander at all the traditional Latin chanted parts of the Mass ordinary in this order of worship from Congratulations you have found the needle in a haystack... Although it must be said that the quality of the Liturgy has …

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Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
@Schönbergian The level of discussion, hmmm Considering that we have people saying the Pope can do anything, behave like a despot, and we have to follow his every whim. When... 1. Only Janus could follow every whim of the present incumbent. 2. Papal…

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Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
@CharlesW Well our diocese will need to close 1/3rd of our parishes within the next 5-10 years, and 2/3rd within 15 years. Our Seminary closed this year due to no vocations, and only a handful at most for the last few years. 2/3rds of our diocesan…

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Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
@contemporaryworship92 Is this forum a safe space to promote the SSPX? Perhaps you should spend some time looking into Pope Francis's pronouncements with regard to the SSPX. He has given them faculties! As for this Forum it is for Church Music…

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Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
Anyway to celebrate this persecution which has always strengthened the Faith, I am redoubling my efforts to spread Tradition. The present regime in Rome is playing a dangerous game (for them), by saying that the Church before Vatican II was '…

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Paris Notre Dame fire
The good news, the fabric etc. is being restored to the novel design of Viollet-le-Duc, with some restoration of the mediaeval remains. Bad news, the fire risk forest is going back above the vaults. Good news, the french union of woodworkers, and th…

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Most melismatic chant?
We have had this discussion before, https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/13978/longest-melisma-in-the-gregorian-repertory/p1 and https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/17443/most-challenging-chants/p1

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Desclée book with music for First Communion
"Cantus ad Processiones ..." 1948 ?

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Mass XVII in modern notation
@a_f_hawkins I think the problem is the modern books, in the old books you would have the two Kyrie for Lent and Advent, we sing the first one during Lent and the second in Advent. In the older books an older version of the first Kyrie is printed i…

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Songs to End Adoration
This only applied to Benediction in England & Wales, but is based upon Ritus Servandus, https://archive.org/details/ManualOfPrayers1953/page/n263/mode/2up They end with Adoremus... as we still do.

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LoTH Vespers
In England it is normal to sing the Marian Anthem after Divine Office Vespers, supposedly this is permitted but have not seen the permission.

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LoTH Vespers
We are fortunate that our N.O. Parish is happy to have DA Vespers and Compline.

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Isaac's Choralis Constantinus
Dear @CCooze Thank you so much, members of our Congregation have repeatedly told me they have really found this music to be a great aid to their prayers. It is a privilege to be able to use such music for the very purpose it was composed. Our n…

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Happy Thanksgiving!
Our choir rehearsal tonight we are in the U.K., has had for the first time a Thanksgiving meal afterwards. One of our new members is from those United States and is away from home for the first time, so we have had Turkey, mashed potatoes, cornbrea…

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The Solemnity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Universe (2021)
St Bede's Clapham Park, London 11am EF (24th and last Sunday after Pentecost). INT. Dicit Dominus (Issac setting sung in full with G.P.) KYR. Mass XI GLO. Mass XI GRAD. Liberasti nos, Domine (chant from G.R. 1924) ALL. De profundis (Issac set…

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Isaac's Choralis Constantinus
@CCooze We sang the Terribilis a month or so ago, it takes a while to sing but is beautiful! We also sang the Locus Iste, Bruckner, Domine Deus, Palestrina and the Domus mea, Issac. Tomorrow we are singing the complete set of Issac Propers for th…

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What to do with really old choir scores
What about semi-random English language hymn and sacred music octavo scores under copyright from the 1950s-2000? Bonfire? They are great to use to light the new fire on the Vigil...

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Are orchestral masses intended for liturgical use?
Two words 'Progressive Solemnity'... So a sung Mass during the week on a feria, would be chant from the Gradual Romanum On Sundays perhaps a polyphonic ordinary or Propers. On Easter Sunday at the Cathedral Pontifical High Mass, orchest…

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Polyphonic Mass logistics in an EF Mass
@LorenCarle So the priest says Sanctus, as the choir begins the Sanctus. The priest continues with the prayers in the Missal, Te igitur... etc. Now ideally the choir should have chosen music that will not be too long, but if not the priest would …

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Cardinal Cupich: "The Gift of Traditionis Custodes"
@bhcordova In Great Britain our decline began with Vat II, as foreseen by +Heenan. We were thriving in the 1950's! As for decline, we are doing badly in South America, and Africa. The real global south is Australia, and they suffer the same…

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Cardinal Cupich: "The Gift of Traditionis Custodes"
@SchönbergianIf the Novus Ordo is outright abrogated, the chance of its replacement looking anything like the Extraordinary Form are essentially nil. The "best" that you could hope for would be 1967. The N.O. will not be abrogated, it will…

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Mode II chant melody
@Johnpeter The photo does not appear, but this may help http://www.globalchant.org/search.php

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Cardinal Cupich: "The Gift of Traditionis Custodes"
So they want us Trads to help keep the bad ship Vat II afloat? Too little too late, here in Europe we will not have a Church soon, the Seminaries are closing and emptying, our priests are ageing, and will be retiring soon. The Vat II church has no …

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Cardinal Cupich: "The Gift of Traditionis Custodes"
The "gift" of which Cupich speaks, is a firm decision to unify the Church around Vatican II's ecclesiology and liturgical renewal. That's not sarcasm. Yes, not sarcasm, but funny all the same. The Church of course is not just th…

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A Petition to Freeze the Translations of the Mass for 150 years.
@Gamba An interesting list, I will add my comments, 1. A world war and genocide that forced Christianity to reconsider its relationship to Judaism, and the entire world order to be permanently altered, with the final end of Christian Europe, the int…

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Conclusion of Exposition without Benediction
https://archive.org/details/ManualOfPrayers1953/page/n263/mode/2up

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General Discussion: Catholicism
If they are generating more heat than light, or the same people are rehashing the same viewpoints repeatedly, they have a good chance of being shut down.

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Conclusion of Exposition without Benediction
The rules for Exposition have been gradually reduced, are there any rules left? I notice this decline coincides with the decrease in reverence to the Most Blessed Sacrament.

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