David Sullivan

Dignus est Agnus
Also to follow up on rogue63's question, the Dom Johner book is where I got this. Johner mentions the Introit Dum sanctificatus fuero from the Wednesday after the 4th Sunday of Lent as the main source for Dignus est Agnus. The Gradual is based…

Comment by David Sullivan November 2013 permalink
Dignus est Agnus
Right, I was mainly pointing out that the chant is new, but ronkrisman's comment is interesting that the old Vulgate was still in use in the 1920s. It's also interesting that new chants were being composed (centonized?) that late. Does a…

Comment by David Sullivan November 2013 permalink
Dignus est Agnus
If there are textual errors, they may be of quite recent origin. Remember that the feast of Christ the King was established in the 1920s. Dom Johner notes that the propers are old chants reworked to fit the newly designated texts. I remember hear…

Comment by David Sullivan October 2013 permalink
a capella EF Mass?
Arthur Connick, One of my reasons for preferring chant to be unaccompanied is the idea that liturgical music is the union of the sacred texts--in chant, primarily from scripture--and the music. (This was noted by both Vatican II and Pius X). To …

Comment by David Sullivan October 2013 permalink
a capella EF Mass?
harleymartin makes a good point about seasons. My understanding is that organ playing by itself isn't allowed during Lent or for Requiems, but may be used to support the singing if necessary. Also pertinent to Scott W's original question…

Comment by David Sullivan October 2013 permalink
a capella EF Mass?
he thought it was a neat musical effect, the way the choir lowered the pitch by half steps throughout the night office... Kathy, I'll have to remember that one...it's a musical effect. That's it...a musical effect. Intentional, ri…

Comment by David Sullivan October 2013 permalink
Offert. De profundis from 1935 Offertoriale + rhythmic signs
Singing at different parishes on a monthly rotation, we've done a number of the offertory verses, in the TLM, using both the Offertoriale and the R Rice versions. With the fairly long Offertory for the TLM, especially when incense is used, the…

Comment by David Sullivan October 2013 permalink
How to Start a Chant-Based Sacred Music Program in 8 Not Easy and Time-Consuming Steps
WJA, This looks like a very sensible way to progress--love your acknowledgment that it's not quick and easy! A couple of questions: How would you characterize the Chants Abreges vs. the Rice Simple Gradual? Did you find the Chants Abreges si…

Comment by David Sullivan October 2013 permalink
Roman Missal Question: Is there no common of Apostles?
Interesting--for the post-V II liturgy, there is no common of Apostles in the Missal, but there is in the Gradual and Office. The Missal notes "For each Solemnity and Feast a complete proper Mass is provided." Each Apostle has a Feast, e…

Comment by David Sullivan October 2013 permalink
Terminology: "Vetus Ordo"
If you think about it, "Traditional Latin Mass" isn't an official term either, but everyone knows what it means. Bingo!

Comment by David Sullivan September 2013 permalink
Pope Francis calls for prayer and fasting Sept. 7th, for peace in Syria
For Sunday, I'm thinking to add the votive antiphon "Da pacem, Domine." It's in the PBC 2nd edition, page 186; it wouldn't be hard to add Psalm verses. (I'm sure it's in the 1st edition as well). Very like the …

Comment by David Sullivan September 2013 permalink
Flying Fish Puppets at NPM Mass
Red sea creatures are turning up in all kinds of unexpected places-- see Sunday's Lio comic strip was very rather topical in light of this thread, see below. http://www.gocomics.com/lio/2013/08/04 I'll leave it to others to comment m…

Comment by David Sullivan August 2013 permalink
Embody
"Is it wrong that I have no contact with the local diocesan worship office for anything at all? " As a certain pastor used to sing sotto voce to a tune from My Fair Lady: "All I want is a rectory, far away from the chancery.....&quo…

Comment by David Sullivan July 2013 permalink
EF in vernacular?
M Jackson Osborn, Thanks for your reply. On further reflection, I consider the council, in allowing vernacular for some prayers and chants while retaining Latin as the proper language of the Roman Rite, did indeed foresee the mixing of languages th…

Comment by David Sullivan June 2013 permalink
EF in vernacular?
M Jackson Osborne wrote: "Another gift of the council was mass in our beautiful vernacular... an honest, gorgeous, resplendent, solemn vernacular mass with fine music to go with it; not a pastiche, which makes a mockery of it." This hone…

Comment by David Sullivan June 2013 permalink
Corpus Christi at St. Paul in Ellicott City
Mia, congratulations to you and all your schola members! Thanks for your report! It sounds like a wonderful occasion, and it's especially good to hear of all the participation of diocesan clergy. Lauda Sion Salvatorem....

Comment by David Sullivan June 2013 permalink
Text for Discussion: St. Ambrose's Aeterne Rerum Conditor, aka The One about a Rooster
Kathy, keep the references to the rooster--Christians understand the connection to Peter's repentance. After all, the first verse puts forth the idea that the rhythms and patterns of nature are set by God for our benefit. Most suburban and c…

Comment by David Sullivan May 2013 permalink
Scrambling For Assistance For Infant Funeral
So sorry about this untimely death; what a blessing that the baby was baptized. There is some material in the Liber Usualis (pp 1825-31) about the burial of very young children. You can find a pdf of the Liber on the CMAA website if you don't…

Comment by David Sullivan May 2013 permalink
"God doesn't care"
I'm always taken aback by the assertion "God doesn't care" about small things. It makes me think of the following: Matthew 10:29-30 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from …

Comment by David Sullivan April 2013 permalink
March for Life
The day of Friday's March in DC, we're having two(!) sung Masses at Old St Mary's in Chinatown, before and after the March. Both are extraordinary form: The first is at 8:00 am, and will be a memorial for the late Miss Nellie Gray, …

Comment by David Sullivan January 2013 permalink
What Makes Propers Proper?
kirchenmusik wrote: If we care about the Propers, we need to have a strong and well-reasoned argument for using them beyond "the Church says so." Another way to look at it is that we care about the propers because we want to pray the wa…

Comment by David Sullivan August 2012 permalink
Incorporating the Graduale Communion Chant Alongside SEP
I often sing the Communio at daily Mass when the day is ranked as feast or solemnity. (For instance Visitation last on Thursday). I sing first an English translation on a psalm tone, then the Graduale chant. This arrangement partly came about bec…

Comment by David Sullivan June 2012 permalink
What funny things have you heard at Mass? (Updated Title)
A priest, while reading the Gospel story of Dives and Lazarus, said: There is a great Abbess (instead of abyss) fixed between you and us, and no one may pass.... I thought: Father, hou must know Sister Vincent.

Comment by David Sullivan May 2012 permalink
Confusion about how to sing the Gregorian Alleluia
JMO, curious that Johner and the Vatican preface have slightly different methods. I've never heard the Vatican method of having the full schola sing only the jubilus of the last alleluia. In my schola during Eastertide, we sometimes have the …

Comment by David Sullivan May 2012 permalink
Mahrt's great book
Okay, I just ordered one for myself and one for my parish music director.

Comment by David Sullivan March 2012 permalink
Rossini Propers Ash Wednesday
By the way, I'm looking at the texts closely because I'm trying to set the chants to Introit psalm tones using the same mode as the original chant. While I can see the practicality of using psalm tones, it seems preferable to use the orig…

Comment by David Sullivan February 2012 permalink
Rossini Propers Ash Wednesday
Looking at the Ash Wednesday chants, I noticed a couple of discrepancies between Rossini and the Liber/Gradual. Does anyone here know about this? Rossini says in his preface that in cases of discrepancies between the Gradual and the Missal, he use…

Comment by David Sullivan February 2012 permalink
More Latin chant settings for Sanctus and Agnus Dei?
Laura, in addition to the 18 Masses in the Gradual (or Liber Usualis), you should find a section of 'ad libitum' settings of the various parts of the ordinary. This section includes a few more settings of the Sanctus and Agnus Dei. As far…

Comment by David Sullivan January 2012 permalink
How do you begin your choir rehearsal?
I try to begin with this prayer: Direct, we beseech Thee O Lord, all our actions by Thy holy inspiration and carry them on by Thy gracious assistance, that every work and prayer of our may always begin from Thee and through Thee, be happily ended, t…

Comment by David Sullivan January 2012 permalink
Cantor vs. Choir, active participation & "the liturgical movement"
Francis, your initial post on this thread could have been a verbatim transcription of my college experience circa 1975. The only difference was instead of moving the tabernacle, they moved the students' evening Mass right out of the church to …

Comment by David Sullivan December 2011 permalink

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