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Paroissien Romain
To clarify: I'm seeking a published French translation from a book with an imprimatur.

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Introduction to Mensuralism
Yes, 1871 edition published by Pustet.

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Introduction to Mensuralism
is that actually chant?LOL! Does it not sound "chant-like" enough for you?

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Introduction to Mensuralism
I would see if the result is beautiful and edifying.I'm generally not a fan of non-congregational singing in octaves, but this doesn't strike me as ugly or unedifying: https://soundcloud.com/seanconnolly/offertorium-ascendit-deus nor does …

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Introduction to Mensuralism
But I think the late Medieval chant is a valid tradition.I don't disagree. My problem is when people take it and claim it's the original version. As for "meeting the changes of circumstances and situation," the only general cha…

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Introduction to Mensuralism

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Introduction to Mensuralism
I don't consider my objective fundamentally different than that of St. Pius X, "It is important that these melodies should be performed in the manner that they were originally conceived as works of art," the preface to the Vatican edi…

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Introduction to Mensuralism
Having more than one person sing the ‘nuances of the nuances’ together requires a massive amount of time and energy.Which is a practical argument against semiology. If you think I'm promoting a "nuances of nuances" approach, you'…

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Introduction to Mensuralism
This was also posted at Corpus Christi Watershed: https://www.ccwatershed.org/2023/06/28/mensuralism/

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White Biretttas -
The Norbertines (Premonstratensians) wear them. The current bulletin of the parish in question mentions a visiting OMI priest. Might it have been he? Google is turning up more photos of OMIs in white cassocks than black.

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Is this b natural or b flat?
This 'problem' will recur in mode 5 chants because of the nature of the ending formula, won't it?Indeed!

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Is this b natural or b flat?
Avoiding the tritone between fa and ti. Do they also mark it flat when the same figure occurs in other chants, e.g. the graduals Domine dominus noster or Viderunt?

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Is this b natural or b flat?
Natural. The quarter bar line cancels the flat. From the preface to the Vatican edition:It is to be noted that B-flat, when it occurs, only holds good as far as the next natural, or dividing line, or new word.And the Solesmes Rules for Interpretat…

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Must cantors be Catholic?
It seems the answer the question is, depends on your parish and your pastor. A case could be made for either prohibition of non-Catholic cantors or for inclusion of same. Therefore, I would say this is a clear case of subsidiarity and discernment on…

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Must cantors be Catholic?
There is conflict between tradition and current law on these points. Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism ordered by Pope John Paul II, 1993: 118. In liturgical celebrations taking place in other Churches and ecclesial…

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Music for traditional adult baptism
Yes, it exists. The source can be found in a previous thread.

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Gregorian Chant has "pride of place": English or Latin?
St. Pius X devotes a section of his motu proprio to the "external form of the sacred compositions," where he says:10. The different parts of the mass and the Office must retain, even musically, that particular concept and form which eccles…

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Nocturnale Romanum is available
The Nocturnale remains a work in progress. An update was posted here a week ago.

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Psalm Tone Propers for EF: resource/research help, please
Rossini Propers and Liber Brevior

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Coronation 2023 - Orders of Service
Note the commentary:This Gloria comes from a Mass setting originally composed for recusant Roman Catholics (those who refused to adopt the doctrine of the newly established Church of England after the Reformation). It has since been embraced into th…

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How to decide where the Ictus goes, when chant rules conflict?
The rule about the beginning of a doubled or tripled note takes precedence over the rule about the first note of a group; your solution is correct. Though made up, the rules are hierarchical and there is no conflict or ambiguity in this particular …

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Dubious Copyright, Misattribution, or Plagiarism?
Since GIA owns WLP now, it's all moot, and not really any of our business. We're not here to accuse other people of legal wrongdoing.I'm afraid you've missed the point. If programing this work, who should be credited as the arra…

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Propers for the Immaculate Heart of Mary (June 17)
The Ordo Cantus Missae lists the following chants, with 423 being ad libitum options:

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Dubious Copyright, Misattribution, or Plagiarism?
Jeffrey, you have quite a few works on CPDL. Suppose someone were to reharmonize 15% of a couple of them and submit them to a publisher, who decided to sell them without attributing them to you in any way. Then someone brings your compositions to …

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Dubious Copyright, Misattribution, or Plagiarism?
The differences are negligible. The harmonization is 85–90% identical, and some of the differences are merely passing tones or revoicings. Even the parallel fifths between Mater misericordiae and the parallel unisons at Mater veniae and gratiae ar…

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music history textbook claims x, which needs more precision. Help please.
I have in my head that it's simply how Prince-Archbishop Colloredo of Salzburg wanted it done in his cathedral ;) Alternatim generally applies to parts of the Ordinary; the church sonata, to the Proper.

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music history textbook claims x, which needs more precision. Help please.
Yes, it's instrumental music substituted for some part of Sung Mass, usually the gradual and alleluia. I think only singing half the text, probably with serpent accompaniment, is likely the historical alternatim practice and that reciting the …

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music history textbook claims x, which needs more precision. Help please.
It seems to be referring to the sonata da chiesa, not alternatim. It was an abuse not only tolerated but positively promoted in some places.

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Stadler Ecce Sacerdos: Organ Score
It's in the St. Gregory Hymnal.

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Holy Thursday Gloria in Excelsis organ accompaniment
The GIRM does not apply to the 1962 Missal, which was specified in the post. From the end of the Gloria on Holy Thursday until the intonation of the Gloria of the Easter Vigil, the organ is not permitted even to accompany singing in the traditional…

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