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Mandating vernacular only in a diocese
In my previous diocese, when the new translation of the missal was introduced around 13 years ago, there was a directive not to sing Latin Ordinaries (except at the TLM) for one year so that the people would get accustomed to the revised texts. I d…

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Guidelines for composing gradual and alleluia for EF?
The main thing is defining what" inappropriate" means, since, as you noticed, most traditional composers used a lot of repetitions.Some would have us think that singing amen ten times is fine when Palestrina does it, but an abuse when a 19…

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Guidelines for composing gradual and alleluia for EF?
I would think so. I'm not aware of a compositional restriction that applies to the Proper but not the Ordinary.

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Guidelines for composing gradual and alleluia for EF?
Composers ranging from Rheinberger to Willan to Montani to Duruflé to Langlais wrote Latin liturgical music for unison chorus and organ.

Comment by FSSPmusic February 2025 permalink
Guidelines for composing gradual and alleluia for EF?
Is it possible to compose modern music for mass (EF) that is a single melody with lyrics accompanied by an organ and not two or more voices singing?Yes. Is the concern that a monodic composition would be considered "chant" in an unapprove…

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Metered Latin Psalms
I don't think anyone has attempted an entire Latin psalter in verse, and there's certainly nothing of that sort officially and explicitly "approved for use within the Mass." There are some at this site, which might be helpful to…

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Announcing a major new offering: "The Our Lady of Mount Carmel Hymnal"
Let anyone who has attempted to produce a hymnal on this scale be the first to cast a stone. We are making some edits to correct additional typos Professor, if I were attempting to produce such a hymnal and still making edits, I would express apprec…

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Are we winning any ground at all?
My former rector predicted this. He mentioned that many of his generation of priests were canon lawyers because they were seminarians when the new Code of Canon Law was introduced and there was a heavy emphasis on it in their formation. When the n…

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Bea Psalter in «Communio» (2008) by Rice (ed.)?
If you copy 1962 Solesmes, copy its syllabification…Unfortunately there are extensive discrepancies if one copies and pastes from gregobase.

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1962 Sundays
The CanticaNOVA list is incomplete. In fact, I sent them an e-mail 2.5 years ago asking that they consider adding St. Joseph the Workman (May 1), Precious Blood (July 1), St. Michael (September 29), and Holy Rosary, which gets an external solemnity…

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Bea Psalter in «Communio» (2008) by Rice (ed.)?
Psalm 33, Magnificat, and Nunc dimittis verse attached, with hyphenation and liquescents corrected. Unless you do something truly drastic with liquescents, these should be fully compatible with the Oct/Nov 2022 uploads as well as the versions in Ve…

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Tristropha with first note lowered a third?
The offertory Exaltabo is full of them. Hear what Triors does, and notice the slight spacing differences in the Vatican edition: https://vimeo.com/10540680

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Tristropha with first note lowered a third?
I can't recall a Solesmes ictus placement exception for the tristropha; in fact, they consider that kind of short-long ternary grouping syncopation to be avoided. The Bragers accompaniment puts a chord change (and therefore the ictus) on the u…

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Weddings that start late: how do you handle this?
One of the priests here tells people that if they are any more than 10 minutes late, the wedding is off and they have to reschedule.And how does that affect the music fees? Do you have singers who drive a considerable distance, like some of mine? I…

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Weddings that start late: how do you handle this?
chonak's suggestion is best. The deposit doesn't have to be specifically for the late fee but can also cover damages or cleaning costs beyond what may be reasonably expected, especially if they have the reception on site. We have a 15-mi…

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No italics leading to the bold syllables in Liber Usualis

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"Omnes qui in Christo" corrected chant question
Here are the notes from the critical apparatus in Beiträge zur Gregorianik 23:Kl; Mod (118.2); Verdum 759, Sarum (124.5), and Moosburg (82.12): only pes re-fa (Verdum in transposition sol-te). In Bv 34, A, and Y the first two notes are not found at…

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How ‘wild’ can one go with organ improvisation??
playing for mass is not the same as accompanying a silent movieAgreed! I'm not a good improviser, and we're not allergic to silence, although I do "fill in" here and there as needed, especially at the offertory. As for silent f…

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Teaching a semiexperienced schola the Solesmes method and other fundamentals of chant more directly
But where it probably confuses people, to your point, is where you could either count something after a bar, like in the Dies Irae, as a one-two or a silent one then two.In syllabic passages, yes, but the Dies irae isn't the best examples, sinc…

Comment by FSSPmusic January 2025 permalink
Teaching a semiexperienced schola the Solesmes method and other fundamentals of chant more directly
They have to memorize the ictus placement rules. I don't know how my priests feel about this analogy, but someone attempting to sing chant and follow Solesmes-method chironomy without knowing the ictus placement rules is like someone going to …

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Pronunciation- Israel in The First Nowell
Latin is another matter. Many singers are in the habit of using triphthongs in words like Israel and Sabaoth, but there should be no i/j/y sound (rye, bye) when passing from one syllable to the other. I constantly have to remind some of my singers…

Comment by FSSPmusic December 2024 permalink
Pronunciation- Israel in The First Nowell
The "pure S" pronunciation is nonstandard and affected. One doesn't pronounce the words is that way, and certainly not as! I see that the "rye" pronunciation has made it into Wiktionary however.

Comment by FSSPmusic December 2024 permalink
Announcing a major new offering: "The Our Lady of Mount Carmel Hymnal"
Some of the comments have clearly struck a nerve, when valid critique of editorial decisions is dismissed as nitpicking, bickering, infighting, making the ideal the enemy of the good, etc. We need publications with the highest editorial standards t…

Comment by FSSPmusic December 2024 permalink
Announcing a major new offering: "The Our Lady of Mount Carmel Hymnal"
in my opinion the 1940 is a premier model for standards to engrave a hymnal That, and the 1958 Service Book and Hymnal of the Lutheran Church in America, although I'm not a fan of the omission of time signatures. As far as Catholic hymnals go,…

Comment by FSSPmusic December 2024 permalink
Announcing a major new offering: "The Our Lady of Mount Carmel Hymnal"
@FSSPmusic do you mean in “All Glory, Laud, and Honor”, at the end of lines, or somewhere else?Yes, but it's a stylistic choice, not an error per se. In the first twenty or so examples on the hymnary.org site, most do break bars at the end of …

Comment by FSSPmusic December 2024 permalink
Announcing a major new offering: "The Our Lady of Mount Carmel Hymnal"
A quick glance reveals two glaring typesetting problems on the sample pages: the abbreviation rit. inexplicably spaced out onto two lines, ri / t., and text offsetting in each stanza of "Te saeculorum Principem" after the half bar as well …

Comment by FSSPmusic December 2024 permalink
“Please help me understand” by Aurelio Porfiri
In many contexts, excellence attracts excellence: people hear excellent choral singing, want to be a part of it, and will make some sacrifices to do so. Yet many of us are doing our absolute best with the resources we have and our music programs st…

Comment by FSSPmusic November 2024 permalink
Graduale Romanum (EF) Alleluias
I don't have a comprehensive list, but there are four upcoming alleluia melodies that will be sung at least four times throughout the year: Advent I 8 Ostende Advent III 4 Excita Christmas Day 2 Dies sanctificatus

Comment by FSSPmusic November 2024 permalink
Immaculate Conception Holy Day Status
Yes, only the US. Immaculate Conception is not a holy day of obligation in Canada.

Comment by FSSPmusic November 2024 permalink
Immaculate Conception Holy Day Status
I have never figured out what an external solemnity on the day itself would look like.Might this apply to October 7 when it falls on a Sunday? The external solemnity of Our Lady of the Rosary is observed on the first Sunday of October, but a second…

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