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Use of David Haas's music/the new Gather edition
Notitiae number 62 p110. It's in the preamble paragraph. My non-existent Italian does not allow me to judge how strong the sentiment is. The urging of bishops continues on the next page.

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ASPERGES ME: Is it used in the Novus Ordo Mass ?
Having a tenth century and a thirteenth century version of of the same tune side by side shows that drawing attention to oneself in the liturgy is not a new aberration.

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Ope juva translation, and pneuma
MUSIC OF THE SARUM OFFICE The Gregorian Institute of Canada is affiliated with the School of the Arts, McMaster University. PNEUMA. The pneuma (or neuma or neupma) is a lengthy melisma sung at the conclusion of certain antiphons. They appear amongst…

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"Reform of the Reform" is a Slippery Phrase
If .. or St. Thomas Aquinas, or St.... walked through the door this instant, would the recognize this as mass?This old post on NLM was referenced recently : https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2015/07/st-thomas-aquinass-early-commentary-on.html#.…

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Lucernarium - ritual?
Two official ways of lengthening public Vespers : GILH§46 suggests a longer reading from the Office of Readings, or from Mass (e.g. from the day in a different cycle), and optionally a homily on the reading. The instruction on Worship of the Euchari…

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"Reform of the Reform" is a Slippery Phrase
francis- simply adopting Roman Court usage was not what the Council had called for. Look in particular at the demand for engaging with the congregation in Session XXII Chapter viii (Canons of Trent)

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"Reform of the Reform" is a Slippery Phrase
I also just don't think that people are going to be energized by a movement to make incremental changes in the liturgy. Like, if this is about making the kinds of edits to the Roman Missal that the average person in the pew would barely notice…

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"Reform of the Reform" is a Slippery Phrase
There is ample evidence that the NO was devised very hastily, and that no one involved was satisfied with the result. Unfortunately CDW reverted to the SCR stance that "all change is bad" when Bugnini was thrown out. We have clear evidence…

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Proper Antiphons other than English or Spanish
For Sundays and major festivals over 150 of them are identical with those in the Missal, mostly Introits.

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Introducing everyone involved in the liturgy
No, never.

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"They are part of us too""
So, if I can avoid reacting too hastily and ponder - “The communion of saints is the Church” (CCC no. 946) “If one member suffers”, writes St Paul, “all the members suffer together; and if one member is honoured, all the members rejoice with him. …

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What is going on here?
Liam - not quite, Lewis did not say permitted, he warned :- He (Satan) always sends errors into the world in pairs – pairs of opposites. And he always encourages us to spend a lot of time thinking which is the worst. You see why, of course? He relie…

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The End of Reform of the Reform in France?
It is relevant to note that for England&Wales the CTS seems to be the only publisher of missals apart from one Sunday hand missal. My peoples edition Daily Missal is Latin and English in parallel throughout except for the Liturgy of the Word, as…

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The End of Reform of the Reform in France?
We were particularly fortunate in having Cdl Heenan at Westminster from 1963, before the first changes, to 1975 after the NO had been implemented in 1973. His policy throughout was that every parish have at least one Sunday Mass in Latin. That was …

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Report on conference Nov. 7 2021
It would be good if someone can find a source. I can't see any mention in OCM(1988), even indirectly under cantus ad libitum (there is quite a bit there which does not appear in GR1974). Of course given the freedom US bishops have, maybe one of…

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The End of Reform of the Reform in France?
I have been a parishioner in three different large churches, which currently (or pre-covid) have 7, 7 & 5 Masses of Sunday. Those numbers are the same or greater than in the 1950s. In the 1950s one of these Masses at each church would have had …

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The End of Reform of the Reform in France?
For general use Latin propers would currently be a step too far in most times and places. We need IMHO vernacular propers, both chant settings and metrical paraphrases in English in an approved Gradual. And immediate directives (enforced) that instr…

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The End of Reform of the Reform in France?
why not just celebrate the TLM ? It depends on what you mean by "the TLM". Is that represented by the Dublin Mass I just described on another thread = Low Mass accompanied by a recitation of the Rosary, from the pulpit, led by a priest, t…

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What's this about the St. Michael prayer?
It's a matter of balance, not simple black or white. In the 1950s on a weekday in central Dublin one could go to mid-day Mass, and as the celebrant approached the altar one of his confreres would ascend the pulpit and lead the Rosary throughout…

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Private Devotions Inserted Into Mass
It has been reported that CDWDS has twice asked the bishops of England&Wales to drop the practice of adding the Hail Mary at the end of the Intercessions, and none has taken any action. We say it, but sing the Salve during October and on Sundays…

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What's this about the St. Michael prayer?
As ever things are not quite clear cut. The Confiteor used to be heard two or three times at Mass seeking the prayers of both Mary and St Michael. I have no problem with silent private devotions, but collective chanting can hardly be described as pr…

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What's Wrong with Hail Mary: Gentle Woman, et al?
narcissism ? ? please explain where you see narcissism.

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Good Friday Solemn Intercessions: Invitations to kneel/stand
The rubrics say 316 FRIDAY OF HOLY WEEK [GOOD FRIDAY] The Solemn Intercessions 11. the Liturgy of the Word concludes with the Solemn intercessions, which take place in this way: the Deacon, if a Deacon is present, or if he is not, a lay minister, …

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Litany of Saints on Ash Wednesday?
These are intercessions, not the invocations from the start of Mass. Compare page 9 of https://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/files/resources/2021roepastorsguide.pdf and GS p451

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What's this about the St. Michael prayer?
The entrance and exit of the clergy is distinct from the action of the Mass, but psychologically and ritually it is intimately connected. Older Missals prescribe prayers for the clergy before and after Mass, in many non-Roman forms there are prayer…

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What's this about the St. Michael prayer?
"hard to know what they were thinking" 1) no two people are thinking the same thing, let alone 30 people plus 60 advisers. 2) "Don't panic! get something in place pdq to prevent a schism.!" At least that was Bugnini's l…

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Antiphon ‘In die resurrectionis meæ’
On the Cantus database there is https://cantus.uwaterloo.ca/chant/684164

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Non nobis Domine .... correct text?
Its 68 years since I got a bit of paper to say I had enough Latin to enroll at University, but nomini is dative case, broadly indicating "to" or "for", while nomine is ablative broadly indicating "by" "with" o…

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(OF) Litany on Easter Vigil, Or Not?
The England&Wales Liturgy Office says all renew their baptismal promises, including those to be received, followed by Reception and Confirmation, YMMV - and the Liturgy Office does not always update their documents in a timely fashion. https://w…

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(OF) Litany on Easter Vigil, Or Not?
If the font is not visible to the congregation then it is not blessed, and a suitable vessel is placed in the sanctuary. If the water in this vessel is used for a baptism at the Vigil then my hand missal gives a rite of "Blessing of Baptismal W…

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