tomjaw

Lauda longe
@Andrew_Malton The normal form of the Mass is the Solemn High Mass with deacon and subdeacon, you will have two acolytes, a thurifer, cross bearer, torches etc. How do the full ceremonies work with a small square table pretending to be an altar ha…

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Trinity Sunday 2022
We had a Pilgrimage from Canterbury to Ramsgate on Saturday (eve of Trinity) We were able to venerate the relic of St. Thomas at Canterbury and the Relic of St Augustine at Ramsgate. Trinity Sunday (First Holy Communion day) The adult choir and ch…

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Bishop designate in Phoenix.
I see the writings of the saints are rather uncomfortable... having read St. John Chrysostom I cannot refute his arguments that are rooted in scripture, so I am forced to agree with his analysis. Everyone will get what they justly deserve. The sa…

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Bishop designate in Phoenix.
@MarkB I do realise that the Spirit of Vatican II, claims that hell does not exist, or is empty and we are all going to a cosy heaven... I do not think that the Saints were wasting their time when writing about the four last things. Here is the or…

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Bishop designate in Phoenix.
Dolan could stay there forever if he wanted. He may wish to stay their forever, but that is not in his power. He will remain in another place forever, and according to the writings of the saints, he has more chance of going down and not up...

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Litany? Corpus Christi Procession
@ServiamScores It is almost as if the 'tower of Babel' is a prophecy as well as a warning.

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External Solemnities between Two Churches
@Andrew Well if you have the Mass you are supposed to have the procession that follows seamlessly afterwards... So say you processed around the church once, and then had benediction etc. If you happened to have another procession starting say 30mi…

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External Solemnities between Two Churches
@Andrew The Corpus Christi procession is Liturgical, so musical choices are somewhat limited. The way round this is to have a Blessed Sacrament procession, where you can sing English songs etc. Here in England our Parish has a EF Corpus Christi p…

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Litany? Corpus Christi Procession
yea, in general most things translated to English these days are questionable. [...] I avoid listening to any English translation at Mass because of that reason... Not that the older translations were very good either!

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External Solemnities between Two Churches
The Rubrics for Corpus Christi (found in the Missal after the Feast), suggest that two Votive Masses of the Solemnity can take part during the week following the Feast, these must have the procession so would need to be sung. I have been reading th…

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External Solemnities between Two Churches
An external Solemnity would be only 2 low Masses or one Sung Mass and one low Mass. The other Masses being of the Sunday (General Rubrics of the Missal 356-361). The practice at Westminster Cathedral was the conventual Mass could be of the Sunday …

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Coventry Carol
@Salieri The best carols can't be sung in church, so we have been meeting up as a choir in Advent and singing Advent carols with copious amounts of mince pies and mulled wine... This year to raise money for a new church hall we will celebrate…

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Card. Cupich named to Congregation for Divine Worship
Ahh, but John XXIII is now a saint. The Roman Church canonises the person (perhaps infallibly) not his works, of course whether the orthodox / Eastern rites recognise him as a saint is another matter. Some Anglicans / Anglo-catholics venerate King…

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Octaves and the Easter Vigil
No celebrations were suppressed, the ancient Missal of the clerks of Rome was a simple affair, and became the Trent Missal. Generally around that time many other Missals had a whole host of feasts etc. As people transferred to the Trent Missal say …

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Kneeling and the consequences
You need to sing from choir stalls, especially the ones with the little ledge that you can sit against while kneeling.

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Coventry Carol
Secular, Carols are by definition not sacred... The Coventry Carol according to the Oxford book of Carols is from the 15th c. and was first? used at a pageant.

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Card. Cupich named to Congregation for Divine Worship
@Ronn62353 Vatican II did not ask for us to have one Roman Rite. It did not ask for a new Roman Rite. It is obvious that the New Roman Rite as commonly celebrated around the world to increasingly empty churches is not what Vatican II asked for. W…

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"Jesu clemens pie Deus"
I would use this melody, https://gregobase.selapa.net/chant.php?id=9564 Or this, https://gregobase.selapa.net/chant.php?id=3311

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Plans for Pentecost 2022
11am High Mass... We had split the music between the Latin Mass choir and a semi professional quintet run by the parish N.O. music director. His comment was that Byrd was hard, they did not manage to get the verses of the Introit or the Sequence l…

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Plans for Pentecost 2022
We have started our celebration of Pentecost with the Vigil... 2 Ladies and 7 men in choir Prophecy 1 & 2: Prophecy tone TRACT: Cantemus (Chant from the Gradual Romanum 1924) Prophecy 3: Prophecy tone TRACT: Attende (Chant from the Gradual Roma…

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Ascension Thursday/Sunday 2022
Ascension Thursday 12.05 Mass INT. Viri Galilaei (Chant from the G.R. 1924) KYR. Byrd 3 part GLO. Byrd 3 part ALL. Ascendit (Chant from the G.R. 1924) ALL. Dominus in sina (Chant from the G.R. 1924) CRD. Byrd 3 part OFF. Ascendit Deus (Chant from t…

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Keeping it short
Our Mass attendance has increased mainly due to families... our Mass is almost 1h 20m. Most of these families have left the low Mass with hymns of the N.O. to go to a longer E.F. Mass. This week we had another 3 new families. I do not see why …

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Plans for Pentecost 2022
@CGZ Confirma Hoc Deus (Their burger)I suspect the curse of auto correct turned Josef Gabriel Rheinberger into the above.

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procession music for feast St. Anthony
Franciscan books, https://media.musicasacra.com/books/graduale_romano_seraphicum.pdf https://media.musicasacra.com/pdf/processionum.pdf https://archive.org/details/CantualeRomano-seraphicumParsIIi1922 I can't find the link to the Antiphonale...

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How did the kyriales get their names?
@Salieri Thanks, but I am still of the opinion that De angelis should only be sung on feasts of the Angels that are not doubles of the first class!

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How did the kyriales get their names?
More on Tropes here, For the Propers For the Kyriale Tropen zum Kyrie im Graduale Romanum hg. von Anton Stingl jun., EOS Verlag Sankt Ottilien 2011 http://www.beck-shop.de/fachbuch/leseprobe/9783830674689_Excerpt_001.pdf Tropen zum Gloria, Sanctus…

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Music for the Chartres pilgrimage…
@MatthewRoth That Ave Maria recording is a bit off from what I am used to, it sounds very flat without the flourishes of the version commonly sung. N.B. I have been on the Pilgrimage 10 or 12 times! I presume that M. Gérard de Rosny was the choir d…

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Lessons I have learned... and lessons you have learned?
@TCJ At another parish, a priest I know would give them a choice for Funerals, the TLM (with the option of Chant or Polyphony) or the N.O. and hand them a long list of options... Most chose the TLM.

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May Crowning Hymn
Anyone who is against Bring Flowers, if you are married, suggest throwing your wife's grandmother's china in the trash. 'Cause that's what you are doing to your congregation, right in front of them Noel While I remember our schoo…

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May Crowning Hymn
We sang "Bring Flowers... " today, The head reads the text and thinks ? ... while the heart is happy with the sentimentality. We sang this in school May crowning 40 years ago and have sung this at every Parish May crowning for over 40 yea…

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