PeterJ

Novus Ordo: Singing Introit & Kyrie BEFORE the priest begins
Thank you to smvanroode and MarkB - interesting and thank you for setting that out. Perhaps an alternative way of putting the congruity problem is not so much to say that adding a Kyrie to the Entrance Chant messes up the Entrance Chant as such (I…

Comment by PeterJ July 2024 permalink
Novus Ordo: Singing Introit & Kyrie BEFORE the priest begins
smvanroode - thanks but I think your first q re why is addressed in TRRs first post. Re your second q - I don’t see the incongruity since the text in question, “Lord have mercy”, is a theme constantly repeated in the Mass in one way or another. I th…

Comment by PeterJ July 2024 permalink
Novus Ordo: Singing Introit & Kyrie BEFORE the priest begins
In relation to the original question by TRR, I defer to others with greater expertise but I do not see a reason to regard TRR’s NO musical proposal as problematic. The “Entrance Chant” for the Mass is used. To the Entrance Chant is then added a sung…

Comment by PeterJ July 2024 permalink
Musical-Spiritual Dryness
I can sometimes feel spiritual dryness when I just get deeply exhausted / worn out. I get the sense that you’ve had a lot to battle with psychologically (perhaps specifically: emotionally). COVID has been hard on everyone, and then hot-on-it’s-heel…

Comment by PeterJ August 2022 permalink
Simplified Latin Propers
What a splendid idea, Imassery. I can the Offertories being particularly useful in both the OF and the EF - I’m sure we all have experience of their (beautiful) complexity often being a “bridge too far” for even very keen choirs to learn well in the…

Comment by PeterJ January 2022 permalink
Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
I think Sallieri may be on to something there re trial balloon. And I agree with trentonjconn. Where I’ve seen a RotR type of approach to the NO flourish it has always been in parishes where either (1) the church somehow managed to hang on to most…

Comment by PeterJ January 2022 permalink
Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
Indeed, I don’t see the problem of allowing the TLM to run alongside the NO from an historical perspective either. My understanding is that, as far as we can see from the extant historical record, we have always had liturgical diversity in the Wes…

Comment by PeterJ December 2021 permalink
Responsa ad Dubia concerning Traditionis Custodes
I fail to see how an advocate of the NO could have a conceptual problem with allowing the NO and TLM to run alongside each other, as Benedict XVI envisaged. A part of the NO’s ethos is in-built flexibility and optionality. A sung Latin NO Mass a…

Comment by PeterJ December 2021 permalink
women singing the propers - arguments and documents supporting the practice
The most beautiful sound that was ever sung in praise of God was the sound of our Blessed Lady singing her Magnificat and, in due course, singing the Lord’s praises to her little baby, the Word incarnate, as she cradled him in her arms. She is the Q…

Comment by PeterJ April 2021 permalink
Setting the Grail Psalms as Responsorial Psalms with Anglican Chant Pointing
Noel - thanks for the link. Splendid!

Comment by PeterJ February 2017 permalink
Simple Latin Propers, Richard Rice
Stunning! Thank you for sharing, Richard.

Comment by PeterJ January 2017 permalink
Combine two or more hymn titles to create something new
Here's a few suggestions combining full hymn titles... Entrance hymn: More like Jesus would I be if I were a butterfly Offertory hymns: My soul cannot be still in thy holy place (...because of all the active participation going on.) All th…

Comment by PeterJ October 2014 permalink
Communion antiphons in new Sacramentary
JaredOsterman - thank you for your post, and I agree with the conclusion set out in your final sentence. I hadn't realised that the GIRM for the USA actually stated the Roman Missal antiphon under option (1)... or had those other significant wo…

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Communion antiphons in new Sacramentary
Andrew Malton - yes, it would be wonderful to use the LCM or JM in England but, as you say, we would not be able to, just you would not be able to use it in Canada. Sigh. (Incidentally, I suspect the example towards the end of my earlier post where …

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Communion antiphons in new Sacramentary
As Jeff Ostrowski points out in the article I linked above: "...it’s not forbidden to sing the Missal text. Liturgical law has allowed this since 1970, and no one disputes this." * For vernacular propers, I think we need to remember that …

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Simplified Latin propers, prepared by David McClamrock
David - I think starting with the big feasts sounds the right way to go. Even if you stop after that, if you manage to get good coverage across the liturgical year, such a resource would be pretty handy, in my view. Thank you again for sharing.

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Parish Book of Metrical Propers set to Common Meter Hymn Tunes: PBMPCMHT.
I'm no great poet, but I'd be happy to contribute my own couple of attempts at metrical psalmody into a crowd-source project. I could see such a project having some use... but whether it would prove useful enough to enough people to justif…

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Communion antiphons in new Sacramentary
... oh, and they are "cleared" for use by the relevant ecclesiastical authorities in England & Wales and the USA.

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Communion antiphons in new Sacramentary
ghmus7, if you'll excuse the shameless plug, my own little offering in this space ("Entrance, Offertory and Communion Chants") uses the antiphons from RM for the En/Com (and GR for the Off). I don't know if it is the sort of thin…

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
The Ultimatum
I'm so sorry you've been going through such a very difficult time, Salieri. Hopefully this is a glimmer of hope. Perhaps some people will tell the pastor how much they enjoyed/valued the sung Mass and then maybe...

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Communion antiphons in new Sacramentary
ghmus7, you are not the first person to have been perplexed by this problem. May I suggest the following article for further reading; http://www.ccwatershed.org/blog/2014/may/25/mystery-missale-vs-graduale-has-been-solved/ There are a number of se…

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Simplified Latin propers, prepared by David McClamrock
JulieColl - yes, I increasingly find the Alleluias something of a highlight, too. Wish I was a sufficiently good vocalist to sing them on the spot like your friend!!

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
how many verses to do on hymns??
I don't tend to truncate recessional hymns.

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Simplified Latin propers, prepared by David McClamrock
Btw I like the way you've kept the Alleluia. I have one particular thought /question in this regard. I lead one particular "baby" latin choir in my local area, which sings an EF Missa Cantata every now and again. We tend to do a few…

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Simplified Latin propers, prepared by David McClamrock
I really like this approach, David, and I think I "get" what you're trying to do here - nice idea and thanks for posting. I guess what you are saying is that if people here are involved with choirs which are using Rossini psalm tones,…

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
how many verses to do on hymns??
I must confess, if a hymn is dull or I disapprove of it for some reason, or if the congregation / celebrant seems to be getting restless waiting for the hymn to finish, I have a habit of truncating. Naughty, I know. Tut, tut, tut. I suppose part of …

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Parish Book of Metrical Propers set to Common Meter Hymn Tunes: PBMPCMHT.
Adam / Felipe - interesting. I can see why you reached the conclusions that you did. When I was experimenting with the little project I linked above I came to the view that something along these lines could perhaps be of some use in the parish, but:…

Comment by PeterJ September 2014 permalink
Parish Book of Metrical Propers set to Common Meter Hymn Tunes: PBMPCMHT.
Some more here: http://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/11229/seasonal-metrical-hymn-propers#Item_1 This thread is entitled "...common meter hymn tunes..." . If you're looking to expand this project out, personally, I do not re…

Comment by PeterJ August 2014 permalink
Seasonal metrical hymn propers
hartleymartin - snap! I do the same thing. Love that hymn. And I also hate "Gathering Songs" that are all about us and not in the least directed towards the Lord - such hymns can have virtually no devotional value. I get particularly upset…

Comment by PeterJ August 2014 permalink
Sequences in English
Critical input on my post above would be welcome (particularly any comments on the "Dies irae") if anyone has any comments they want to share.

Comment by PeterJ August 2014 permalink

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