CharlesW

Catholics do not stop attending Mass if they do not like the music.
I had no idea things were that bad. Roman Catholicism and both Eastern Catholicism and Orthodoxy are growing in this area of East Tennessee.

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Catholics do not stop attending Mass if they do not like the music.
So what's going on in Saginaw?

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Catholics do not stop attending Mass if they do not like the music.
Throwing a few rotten tomatoes might actually get those warbling diva cantors out of the sanctuary and out of sight. Has anyone else noticed the takeover of the altar area by old bats in pantsuits? Was it warbling or pantsuits in 19th-century Russ…

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Intersting discussion on church music at the First Things blog.
I know what you mean. According to the 16th century treaty by which my eastern church reunited with Rome, we only accept the first seven councils as ecumenical. The church was united then, and the essentials of our faith were agreed on and defined…

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Intersting discussion on church music at the First Things blog.
I concluded, long ago, that despite what the world does, God is not afflicted with political correctness.

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Putting the Cantor in the front: ideas needed...
Of course, all this depends on your cantor. I have had days when I wanted to put one in the parking lot and lock the door!

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Catholics do not stop attending Mass if they do not like the music.
If the mass were celebrated so badly it became an occasion of sin, then it would probably be better to not go to that place. RC churches are plentiful enough that another can usually be found.

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Catholics do not stop attending Mass if they do not like the music.
The more things change, the more they stay the same?

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NFP awareness week
"bring forth the royal diaphragm...." (sorry... couldn't resist - or find the cantor slip-up thread!) ROFL.

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Catholics do not stop attending Mass if they do not like the music.
Mortal? You westerners need to get rid of all that Scholastic hair splitting. LOL.

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purpose of parish choir
I agree, rmerkel. I am all for good music in the liturgy, In fact, I want to use the best that my choir and congregation are capable of. However, music can become an idol, just like anything else. I don't worship music. Music is a tool, al…

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Playing for Protestant services
I made it clear when I interviewed for jobs with the Protestants, that I am Catholic and can't receive communion with them. It was never a problem. Noel: Call me masonic, Calvinist, heretic, even worse - a Democrat. Just get my name right o…

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Putting the Cantor in the front: ideas needed...
GIRM also mentions something along the lines of, "or other suitable place." Send in the liturgy police! So sue us!

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Musical Change In The Church
All too often I have heard several fellow clergy and bishops' true opinions and comments (behind closed doors), on chant and polyphony and the people / organizations promoting it and it is NOT positive. The good Abbot is correct. We are not t…

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Putting the Cantor in the front: ideas needed...
Yes they do. The Pastor doesn't want them in front, so that is that. The exception is the very early Sunday morning mass where there is no cantor and no choir. Then the reader reads the psalm after the first reading.

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Pope St. Whirligig the Great and the CMAA Illuminati
I often say that fixing things will take another 40 to 50 years, if the will is there. Pope Benedict - I believe God's gift to the Church in our time - is not a young man. Who knows whether or not his successor will find any of this a priorit…

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Putting the Cantor in the front: ideas needed...
I'm keeping them in the loft. Never give a church diva an audience, or they start performing.

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Pope St. Whirligig the Great and the CMAA Illuminati
In practice, and I am old enough to remember, beginning with the missal of 1965 the canon was in Latin and the rest of the mass vernacular in my parish. Of course, there was only one canon at that time. I don't recall the canon variety and di…

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Pope St. Whirligig the Great and the CMAA Illuminati
What is true/good/beautiful may never change, but the culture and the context do change. If the context changes enough, then the definitions of true/good/beautiful are no longer understood or relevant. There is a divide on this forum between tho…

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Playing for Protestant services
I played for Protestants for years, and they were great people. The working conditions were often better than in Catholic churches. We both learned a great deal about each other's faiths.

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eerily similar? the summons and yellow submarine
Schutte seems to love that Gilligan's Island theme, doesn't he? Here I am Lord, she's over there Lord... He must have liked The Brady Bunch theme, too.

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eerily similar? the summons and yellow submarine
ROFL.

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Musical Change In The Church
St. Inertia, save us.

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Musical Change In The Church
GIA and WLP publish some excellent music, but they also put some out that isn't so great. OCP I have never dealt with, so I only know about them from comments by others.

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The Best MD Decision I Ever Made
My cantors are always in the loft. Most can carry singing without the use of microphones. I have two cantors who need them. I turn them just high enough to compensate for the weaker, older voices.

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Musical Change In The Church
I agree with you. The major publishers are successful because they are organized and efficient in delivering a usable product.

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Pope St. Whirligig the Great and the CMAA Illuminati
If we restore the sense of worship, at least some folks will realize why all these abuses today are abuses, why they don't fit. I suspect - rather, know - that the EF is better celebrated today than when I witnessed it up to the age of 15 or …

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Pope St. Whirligig the Great and the CMAA Illuminati
"When there is a broken sense of worship in the OF, and when the Holy Father talks again and again about "hermeneutic of continuity" and "reform of the reform" the EF, and the principles of worship elucidated over centuries,…

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Pope St. Whirligig the Great and the CMAA Illuminati
I know about suppressed. I don't use the Dies Irae, either. I do give the family the option of hearing the In Paradisum, English text. No one has refused it, and they seem comforted by the words. Funerals are the worst time to argue with gri…

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Pope St. Whirligig the Great and the CMAA Illuminati
I use Richard Rice's excellent propers where I can. The communion proper is always sung, the introit is sometimes sung, and the offertory never used. Granted, if I can find a hymn or anthem that comes pretty close to the offertory text, then …

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