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Latin Psalter with accents
If you want the whole psalter from Divinumofficium without screen scraping, go to the repository at eg https://github.com/DivinumOfficium/divinum-officium/tree/master/web/www/horas/Latin/psalms1 The Pian version is https://github.com/DivinumOfficiu…

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Training Children as Cantors?
Unless chant is well represented throughout the year in a parish's musical repertory, the setting for penitential seasons should not be plainchant, lest people come to associate chant with sadness and penitence. This.

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choral wedding recessional
Did you sing it in Italian complete with the chickens (left out of the English version)?

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Who is still using the ICEL English Chant Mass?
The Canadian Gloria was previously discussed including music downloads and lots of typical MusicaSacra forum commentary.

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Who is still using the ICEL English Chant Mass?
We used it during Advent and Lent last year and probably will again this year (the rest of the time we mostly sing Orbis Factor as Englished by Fr Kelly). We use it because it is easy and familiar and the likeliest to be sung also by the congregati…

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Cantatur ab omnibus: It is sung by everybody
Thank you, good exposition. I think that "ab" really makes "while all" impossible, although if it just said canitur omnibus stantibus I'd agree readily. Also, of course the OCM is "only for Gregorian". As Galles…

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Favorite Vatican Two document(s) and paragraph(s)?
So the ancient people (basically everyone) whose physics was based on four Elements actually walked on a different Earth and breathed different Air, because they were wrong? And saw different stars because they believed them only small and nearby? …

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From an "active participant" in the pews
I had a pastor who directed us to omit the Gloria during the summer and would say "they're saying in Rome that it can be omitted sometimes.". Pastors say the darndest things: just gotta grin and bear it sometimes. Has has passed on: …

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PIP Singing- It Does Happen!
Quibble, @CharlesW. "There is nothing authentic about Solesmes" is false. Or exaggerated. The charge has been made before, of course, and has been well refuted by among others Dr Mahrt in this forum and in the journal (reprinted in his b…

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Do you pray as a choir/schola?
Lord have mercy on me, a singer.

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Do you pray as a choir/schola?
In other words, Prevent us, O Lord, in all our doings with thy most gracious favour, and further us with thy continual help: that in all our works begun continued, and ended in thee, we may glorifie thy holy Name, and finally by thy mercy obtein eve…

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Do you pray as a choir/schola?
We pray before rehearsal in one choir: it is perfunctory and customary and accepted by all, in much the same spirit as the vocal warmup we do immediately afterwards. Both the prayer and the warmup are always the same and take about a minute each. …

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Church music young people want
credo vs credam : deliberate emphasis on Latin grammar, perhaps? Person and number in hymnody and propers : the real real hymnody of the Church is the psalms. Where first and second person, singular and plural, active and subjunctive, present and …

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Conducting chant
I use a method which I more invented than learned, albeit by watching videos. The singers have only ever said it is easy to follow and useful. Someone described it as "painting the neumes on the air" and I guess that's pretty accura…

Comment by Andrew_Malton April 2018 permalink
Interesting article on "Movable Do and Fixed Do..." by Art Levine
I totally switched from thinking in terms of fixed do to thinking of moveable do as a result of learning chant. And now all the more so since I direct a schola and use hand gestures. Including Curwen when required, anachronistic though that is.

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Hamilton Diocese : Liturgical Instruction "Gathered Into One"
Roman Gradual, actual parish, regular use? definitely zero. Simple Gradual in NRSV English as By Flowing Waters, other non-parish groups, occasionally? I'll go with "a few" .

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Hamilton Diocese : Liturgical Instruction "Gathered Into One"
It is true (and I never noticed it until today) that GIRM 61 when describing and implicitly allowing "in directum" psalmody only says this case is an exception to the "normal" one in which the people participate by singing a resp…

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Hamilton Diocese : Liturgical Instruction "Gathered Into One"
I am further informed that (1) The 1963 Grail as found in the CBW III may be used until CBW IV is available; and (2) the Instruction requires the congregation to "participate" (ie sing something) during the Responsorial Psalm, and insists …

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Memorial of Mary, Mother of the Church
Quick, tell the Pope you've found the missing L.

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Mass Ordinary Chants Booklet from Jubilate Deo
We always chant threefold. The Missal says this can be done for musical reasons. Our musical reason is : we are singing.

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gregorian chant proper for Novus Ordo Mass
If there are differences between the modern Graduale (which is from Solesmes, and so technically a private compilation) and the Ordo (which is an official liturgical book) they are very very minor. I don't know the term "neogregorian comm…

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gregorian chant proper for Novus Ordo Mass
The definitive reference, from the Holy See, of how Novus Ordo Masses are to be sung with their (Gregorian) propers -- which you enumerate above -- is Ordo Cantus Missae, available in a couple of places on the internet (e.g. here) although not, appr…

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Memorial of Mary, Mother of the Church
I hope the Vatican printers have laid up a good supply of extra commas. Phew.

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Choral Composition
I absolutely would have taken that as serious, if Ruff hadn't spilled the beans. I'd say it's meant to be an April Fool's joke, with a sting in the tail for trads.

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Joys and Sorrows of the Triduum
+1 CBW II

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EV psalm #7
Here is some history, although no conclusions. * In CBW I (1972) it says "If baptism is celebrated, the following psalm [Ps 50/51 vv 12ff] is used in place of 7(a) [i.e. Ps 41]" * In the 1978 Lectionary (Jerusalem Bible, Grail 1963 Psa…

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What is the meaning of "O Sacred Feast"
That's the Magnificat antiphon on Corpus Christi. Like all of St. Thomas's texts for the Feast, it proclaims and celebrates the faith and dogmas of the Mass. In so far as Corpus Christi as a feast exists to celebrate the establishment of …

Comment by Andrew_Malton March 2018 permalink
Hamilton Diocese : Liturgical Instruction "Gathered Into One"
Could we tone it down a bit? This Instruction is not useless and not purposeless. It has flaws but so does the GIRM. It has some good language too. And some of us must be obedient to it and to the Bishop, for the love of Christ's Church. I…

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Hamilton Diocese : Liturgical Instruction "Gathered Into One"
I know of servers and Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion who will be excluded from that role because they personally receive kneeling and on the tongue.

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Hamilton Diocese : Liturgical Instruction "Gathered Into One"
I cannot find any suggestion anywhere -- liberal, conservative, loony left, rigid right -- that a Bishop can introduce new restrictive liturgical law on his own authority. No interpretation of even of Can 838 says that. (Edited : well, in Notit…

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