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Ordinariate Calendar Questions
Lots of information about the arrangement of "minor" propers here: https://musicanglicanorum.wordpress.com/2017/04/18/update-on-a-gradual-for-divine-worship-the-missal/

Comment by FSSPmusic September 28 permalink
Ordinariate Calendar Questions
Many thanks for these replies! I have a PDF of the Book of Divine Worship but had forgotten that it was superseded. I found this FAQ, which discusses the propers in no. 8.

Comment by FSSPmusic September 28 permalink
Corpus Christi Watershed website is now subscription-based
when publishing a critique of someone's viewsAgain, I can only speak for myself, but most of the above seems more like a critique of conduct than views. [Sorry, you may have misunderstood my message above: MatthewRoth was unhappy to find that …

Comment by FSSPmusic May 21 permalink
Corpus Christi Watershed website is now subscription-based
But is CCWatershed a charity?According to Jeff Ostrowski himself: "We’re a tiny 501(c)3 public charity which exists solely by the generosity of small donors." But there he also says, "One predominant 'mission' or 'obje…

Comment by FSSPmusic May 20 permalink
Corpus Christi Watershed website is now subscription-based
Their 2012 board is listed on p. 8 of Form 990 here: James Ridley, Kevin Allen, John Ostrowski, Linda Sims, and secretary Claire Ridley. That's not helpful for 2026. This site shows Corpus Christi Watershed c/o Charles Coulombe. [I have e…

Comment by FSSPmusic May 18 permalink
Corpus Christi Watershed website is now subscription-based
And who is on the board? Aren't non-profits required to disclose that information?

Comment by FSSPmusic May 17 permalink
Corpus Christi Watershed website is now subscription-based
Someone not associated with Corpu$ Chri$ti Water$hed contacted me Thursday to notify me that all of my posts (approximately 70,000 words) had been deleted from the site. Nice. I was blocked from their Facebook page months ago but only one of my po…

Comment by FSSPmusic May 17 permalink
Status of Mass Propers Added by Pius XII
To clarify, where the 1961 Solesmes Graduale Romanum says, "Textus antiquus ejusdem hymni," are you claiming that those versions may only be lawfully used in places that retained the older hymns in the Office, not ad libitum?

Comment by FSSPmusic May 12 permalink
Status of Mass Propers Added by Pius XII
The Catholic Encyclopedia on Pange:In the hands of the correctors the hymn suffered many emendations in the interest of classical exactness of phrase and metre. The corrected form is that found today in the Roman Breviary. The older form, with vario…

Comment by FSSPmusic May 12 permalink
Status of Mass Propers Added by Pius XII
one couldn't just start using themFor clarification, only the older "praelium" text appears in the 1908 typical edition; it is the Urbanite "lauream" text from the Missal that was substituted in the 1920s. Note the rubric i…

Comment by FSSPmusic May 11 permalink
Status of Mass Propers Added by Pius XII
It has come to my attention that the 1908 Graduale Romanum gives the text Crux fidelis... Pange lingua.. Praelium certaminis for Good Friday. The 1932 modern notation Liber Usualis has the same, but the 1953 Liber has Lauream, which corresponds to …

Comment by FSSPmusic May 11 permalink
Women Cantors EF Divine Office
Since the subject line specifies "EF," even if the context is the Divine Office, it is still a traditional Latin Mass community that is under consideration. Having been a part of the so-called traditionalist movement under various auspice…

Comment by FSSPmusic May 4 permalink
Status of Mass Propers Added by Pius XII
The third edition of the St. Edmund Campion corrected the verse but left "concupiscit rex decorem tuum."

Comment by FSSPmusic April 24 permalink
Status of Mass Propers Added by Pius XII
Well, this is embarrassing! I relied on a faulty text from the St. Edmund Campion Hymnal (2nd1st ed.): Here is the 1962 typical edition of the Missal: Thank you for the correction!

Comment by FSSPmusic April 23 permalink
Women Cantors EF Divine Office
It doesn't sit well with me when women who love singing gregorian chant are told to be quiet or get out, or to get a clue.I genuinely appreciate all that you have said above, @Chant_Supremacist, but it doesn't sit well with some of us when…

Comment by FSSPmusic April 23 permalink
Women Cantors EF Divine Office
Here is an excerpt from Stehle's Manual of Episcopal Ceremonies, 1916. The rubrics do not envision women wearing cassock and surplice, let alone cope, going to and from the high altar, or uncovering their heads in choir! I'm afraid your …

Comment by FSSPmusic April 21 permalink
Women Cantors EF Divine Office
The legislation seems to imply that a mixed choir is only admissible where a choir of men and boys is unavailable to sing polyphony—which is most places nowadays. We need more information about what is envisioned for this Vespers before making a ju…

Comment by FSSPmusic April 21 permalink
Women Cantors EF Divine Office
ROFL!!! As though diocesan policies trump universal liturgical norms! Next you'll tell us that TLMs should be compelled to use women as acolytes and lectors. Get a clue, will you?

Comment by FSSPmusic April 20 permalink
Women Cantors EF Divine Office
No, a choir including women or girls cannot be placed inside the sanctuary. The inclusion of even a single female cantor constitutes a mixed choir by definition. For Solemn Vespers with officiant in cope, incense, etc., it is understood that the c…

Comment by FSSPmusic April 20 permalink
"Virili voce"
Marcel Pérès has claimed that, by the time of Gajard, much of the chant at Solesmes was sung as much as a fifth higher than what had previously been customary in France. You might take a look at @Charles_Weaver's post about church keys—and kee…

Comment by FSSPmusic April 19 permalink
Why isn't the Canticum Trium Puerorum strictly scriptural?
I don't know the answer to your question, but that doxology is also sung in place of the usual Gloria Patri at the introit on Trinity Sunday according to many of the oldest sources, restored in the newer editions. https://wiki.omnigreg.at/grad:…

Comment by FSSPmusic April 18 permalink
Liquescents in the Alleluia
Q:Then what's a liquescent for if it makes no difference to the performance whether it's there or not?A:liquescent notes are essentially a reminder of good diction

Comment by FSSPmusic April 8 permalink
Liquescents in the Alleluia
I'm bumping this thread. I've had two singers over the past year who previously sang together in another local schola and both said, "So you don't want us to observe the liquescent?" when I said I don't want a five-syl…

Comment by FSSPmusic April 7 permalink
salve festa dies organ accompaniment NEEDED
Nova Organi Harmonia, p. 238 ff. Old and New English Hymnals

Comment by FSSPmusic April 4 permalink
Drum and Bugle Corps for Processions
I second the discouragement of arranging chant-based marches. There is nothing, however, to prevent singing Latin Eucharistic hymns to chorale melodies accompanied by brass. On the contrary, several such tunes (St. Thomas, Werner, Duguet, and Lamb…

Comment by FSSPmusic March 30 permalink
Best Practice for Pueri Hebraeorum Psalms, 1962 Missal
Thank you both!I think the alternation is important no matter how you divide it.@MatthewRoth For clarification, do you mean the alternation by verse (or half-verse), or changing the starting side for the second psalm?

Comment by FSSPmusic March 24 permalink
Duruflé and Solesmes rhythm
Which flavor do you prefer? It appears to be antiquarian when one reaches back and INTERPRETS through one's best guess how the chant was executed... and try to label it as authentic.None of the above! Stick with a performance practice that cor…

Comment by FSSPmusic March 23 permalink
Duruflé and Solesmes rhythm
I don’t think God cares whether one note is longer than the other@francis, that's not exactly the point when we're discussing the oldest notated rhythm. If the chant handed down from the Fathers of the Church is itself sacred—not just the…

Comment by FSSPmusic March 23 permalink
Duruflé and Solesmes rhythm
@Charles_Weaver, I appreciate your lengthy and thoughtful reply. As I said, I want to give Mocquereau the benefit of the doubt. I am not "attacking" the golden rule either. It refers to a breath and possibly a mora vocis, not to the epi…

Comment by FSSPmusic March 21 permalink
Duruflé and Solesmes rhythm
I want to give Mocquereau the benefit of the doubt. Here's what he wrote in Le nombre musical Grégorien:When [the episema] appears above a clivis, for instance, it may double the value of the first note, or again, it may indicate merely a deli…

Comment by FSSPmusic March 21 permalink

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