simply chanting "the liturgical reform is irreversible" over and over does not prevent the next pope or the one three popes from now or twenty popes from now from doing a complete 180 and wiping this MP off of the map.
It was done wrongly. Just because you agree with everything it did doesn't mean that it did it well or in good faith.
Priests are struggling and waiting for guidance from their bishops.
What other things could be ordered on a Friday to cause disagree and chaos in preparation for Saturday & Sunday's Masses?
Guitars are no longer allowed?
Vernacular is no longer allowed?
Latin is no longer allowed?
Female choristers are no longer allowed?
Non-clergy lectors are no longer allowed?
No more Communion in the hand? (Which any bishop could decide at any point).
But no new personal parishes for celebrating the TLM may be created, and the TLM is not permitted at regular parishes.
the legal fiction of Ordinary Form and Extraordinary Form
Ecumenical Councils can not be reversed by a Moto Proprio or any other edict of the Pope. We'd need another ecumenical council to reverse Vatican II's decree on the liturgy. This is extraordinarily unlikely to occur in any of our lifetimes.
Job sat around feeling sorry for himself before he came to terms with the reason WHY the Lord had punished him seemingly for no reason.
I suppose that the thing that irked me the most in all of this is that while some of us were in shock and wondering why our father just punched us in the eye, others were telling us that we deserved it while kicking us in the shin and laughing.
It sounds more to me like he is trying to ensure that the TLM is not abused.
Traditionis Custodes (Art. 3, no. 2) indicates that the Latin Mass is not to be celebrated in regular parish Churches and so will no longer be celebrated in El Dorado, Mountain Home or Cherokee Village.
Traditionis Custodes (Art. 5) indicates that priests who already celebrate the Latin Mass must request permission from the bishop to continue to enjoy this faculty. Here, for non-FSSP priests, that would be exclusively for the private celebration of the Latin Mass since the public celebration of the Latin Mass in Arkansas is to occur only in the two personal parishes entrusted to the FSSP
The Novus Ordo Mass is to be celebrated according to the rubrics provided for that Mass. The Novus Ordo Mass can be celebrated by any priest in any language, including Latin and Latin service music can always be used, but elements of the Traditional Latin Mass are not to be grafted onto the Novus Ordo Mass, regardless of whether it is celebrated in Latin or the vernacular.
I don't believe he is talking about a parish that is doing it the right way, but those parishes that are going outside of the Church and doing their own thing like some I've heard of outside the US.
The Holy Father is ok with the Traditional Latin Mass and those who attend it because it is legitimate, beautiful and what they prefer, as long as they do not at the same time say the Novus Ordo is not legitimate.
Art. 3. The bishop of the diocese
§1. is to determine that these groups do not deny the validity and the legitimacy of the liturgical
reform, dictated by Vatican Council II and the Magisterium of the Supreme Pontiffs;
ordinary Catholics cannot—and should not have to be able to—understand how a pope can act against the Church, her tradition, and her common good as Francis does and has done, again and again.
Pope Francis did the right thing. It was appropriate that he made his new norms take effect immediately. Get it over with. Now bishops need to establish timelines for the TLM phase-out, which I think should take no more than three years and could easily take less time in some dioceses. Why delay the inevitable unnecessarily?
Understand the distinction? TC is effective right away: that's the immediate part. Some provisions of TC will take time to achieve and are subject to the bishop's judgment about how long to wait or when to proceed: that's the gradual phase-out part.
What the bishop of Arkansas did fully comports with TC because TC states that TLMs are not to be celebrated at parochial parishes anymore: only at already-established personal parishes or at another designated location that is not a parochial parish.
(Sent to the clergy of the Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis)
July 16, 2021
Dear Brothers in Christ,
Pope Francis promulgated this morning an apostolic letter, Traditionis custodes, with new norms governing celebration of what we normally refer to as the “Extraordinary Form” liturgy. You can find Pope Francis’ motu proprio here, and the accompanying explanatory letter to the bishops of the world here. I encourage you to read both documents.
The norms take effect today. I will need some time to study the new norms, examine our local situation and seek counsel. With that in mind, I am happy to grant the necessary faculties so that those priests who are already celebrating the rites of the Extraordinary Form may continue to do so. I similarly direct that the Mass in the Extraordinary Form continue in those locations where it is currently being offered in the Archdiocese. No new public liturgical celebration of the Extraordinary Form, however, should be introduced anywhere in the Archdiocese at this time without my written permission.
If you currently celebrate the Extraordinary Form and would hope to continue, I would ask you to write me prior to the Solemnity of the Assumption to request authorization, as required by Article 5 of Traditionis custodes.
[ ... task force details omitted ... ]
We are blessed in the Archdiocese by so many individuals and families who love the liturgy in both of its forms and find in the Eucharist the nourishment they need to live exemplary lives of service. Nonetheless, on this Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, let us ask Our Lady’s intercession for an even greater devotion to the Eucharist so that we might be drawn together in even greater unity as we journey together towards the eternal liturgy of heaven.
With every good wish and the promise of a remembrance in my prayer, I remain,
Fraternally in Christ,
Most Reverend Bernard A. Hebda
Archbishop of Saint Paul and Minneapolis
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