Bulletin announcement seeking musicians
  • MarkB
    Posts: 104
    I mercifully blacked out the name of the parish in this bulletin announcement seeking volunteers for a new "worship band" to provide music at Masses. This is one way to go about it, I guess, but it's the wrong way. This is a very popular and growing parish, by the way. But their music is horrible in choice and in performance, as you can probably tell from the style of this announcement.

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  • That is just...sad. It even makes me more sad than my current predicament in which I'm having trouble with an indifferent Pastor. Goodness gracious :/
  • I remember driving by a protestant "church" with a sign reading: "Jesus is My American Idol". Um, actually he's neither, thank you very much! (Unless you're a Mormon, I guess.)
  • Tacky.
  • eft94530eft94530
    Posts: 1,543
    Serve God .. second on the list.
    A random schedule .. chaos.
    The devil is in the details.
  • Stimson,
    If Jesus is (someone's) Idol.... what true God should (said person) give Him up for?
  • StimsonInRehabStimsonInRehab
    Posts: 1,371
    They should give up idol Jesus for real Jesus. It's like the difference between the Suffering Servant Man-God and the Buddy Christ. Or the difference between St. Nicholas and Santa Claus.
  • WillWilkin
    Posts: 25
    Am I correct that the parish music director reports to the parish pastor and serve at his pleasure? Or that, whatever the titles and positions serving as music ministers, again, it is all at the discretion of the pastor? Are not the musical choices in a parish, even if delegated by the pastor to the music director, ultimately the responsibility of the pastor?

    I ask these questions because, if the answers are yes, then it seems to me perhaps there has been a breakdown of music education in the seminary training of priests, and also in many places a deficit of diocesan-level institutional support for development of music ministers versed in the traditions of Catholic music. I get the impression that music at the various parishes I visit is a very haphazard aspect of the liturgy, almost separate and apart from it, like an interruption of the liturgy for musical performance that has been selected almost randomly or, at least, at the whim of the music directors of vastly uneven quality from place to place.
  • a deficit of diocesan-level institutional support for development of music ministers versed in the traditions of Catholic music


    Is this the masterful use of understatement?
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  • MarkB
    Posts: 104
    I get the impression that music at the various parishes I visit is a very haphazard aspect of the liturgy, almost separate and apart from it, like an interruption of the liturgy for musical performance that has been selected almost randomly or, at least, at the whim of the music directors of vastly uneven quality from place to place.


    That is probably the most accurate characterization of Catholic liturgical music in the present time that I have ever read. The only thing I would add is that the quality of instrumentalists and singers also varies widely but skews towards mediocre and below.
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  • CharlesW
    Posts: 9,466
    The only thing I would add is that the quality of instrumentalists and singers also varies widely but skews towards mediocre and below.


    Could that be because Catholic churches are so damnably cheap? The best people can always work elsewhere if they need the money.
  • Charles,

    Do you mean that Catholic parishes don't pay very much, although they have the means, or that the clerics and most of the laity have been taught to shun "frilly" stuff, like "churchy" music?
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
    Posts: 3,910
    Do you mean that Catholic parishes don't pay very much, although they have the means, or that the clerics and most of the laity have been taught to shun "frilly" stuff, like "churchy" music?
    Yes.
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  • CharlesW
    Posts: 9,466
    Double yes.
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  • irishtenoririshtenor
    Posts: 937
    Triple yes.
    Thanked by 2Liam CharlesW
  • So, why have they been taught to shun "churchy" music? (Mark all that apply)

    a) We're all grown up now, and don't need 'churchy' music.
    b) They've finally been taught to hate what deserves to be hated.
    c) It's the fault of the Irish, of course.
    d) Churchy music doesn't meet people where they are.
    e) Someone hijacked the Church's teaching and poisoned the seminary water supply.
    f) Ask Malachi Martin
    g) none of the above
  • ryandryand
    Posts: 1,532
    Clearly c)

    @irishtenor is to blame
  • irishtenoririshtenor
    Posts: 937
    LOL I do play and sing a lot of schlock and use all methods at my disposal to impose similar choices on others. It is reasonable to blame me for this.
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