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      <title>Litany for Saint Michael set to music</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 21:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>AngelaR</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I'm headed to Ohio later this month to help a school and parish out with a chanted Vespers for their patronal feast of Saint Michael, and just set the Litany for Saint Michael to music. My understanding is that the prayer has only been approved for private devotion, and there are several slightly different forms to be found in the bowels of the internet.<br /><br />A couple slight adjustments: <br /><br />1) "Christ hear us. Christ graciously hear us." was moved to the end of the prayer, where one would expect it in a chanted litany. <br /><br />2) I changed the wording in the final prayer from "Pray for us, O glorious St Michael, Prince of the Church of Jesus Christ. That we may be made worthy <span style="text-decoration: underline;">of His promises</span>." to "That we may be made worthy <span style="text-decoration: underline;">of the promises of Christ</span>",  as I expect some might think "His" refers to Saint Michael, rather than to Jesus Christ.<br /><br />Feel free to use it! And if anyone has information about the origin of this litany, I'd love to hear about it. ]]></description>
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      <title>Qui vult venire</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2026 19:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Richard Mix</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I've based this very closely on <i>The American Gradual</i>, but expecting to need extra verses this Sunday.<br /><blockquote><div>name: Qui vult venire;<br />user-notes: OT 22 A and OT 12 C;<br />commentary: Matth 16 Ps. 34;<br />annotation: Comm. i;<br />centering-scheme: english;<br />%fontsize: 12;<br />%spacing: vichi;<br />%font: OFLSortsMillGoudy;<br />%width: 4.5;<br />%height: 11;<br />%%<br />(c4)<br />If(d) an(f)y(f) one(fe) would(gh) come(ixih) af(fg)ter(f) me,(fED.) (;) let(ixfgwhg/hih) them(gf) de(ed)ny(fgh) them(h)self(e.) (:) and(h) take(ghgh) up(fd) their(f) cross(gef.) (;) and(eg) fol(hjh fg ef)low(dewfEC) me.(d.) (::)<br />1. The(f) eyes(gh) of(hr) the() Lord() are() up(h)on(hj) the(h) righ(hg)teous:(gh..) (:)<br />and(gf) his(gh) ears(hr) are() o(hjh)pen(g) to(f) their(fff) cry.(d.) (::Z)<br />2. The(f) righ(gh)teous(hr) cry,() and(hj) the(h) Lord(hg) hears(gh..) (:)<br />And(gf) de(gh)liv(hr)ers() them() out() of() all(hjh) their(g) trou(fff)bles.(d.) (::Z)<br />3. The(f) Lord(gh) is(hr) near to the bro(hj)ken(h)heart(hg)ed(gh..) (:)<br />And(gf) saves(gh) those(hr) who() are() crushed(hj) in(g) spir(fff)it.(d.) (::Z)<br />4. Ma(f)ny(gh) are(hr) the() afflictions() of(hj) the(h) righ(hg)teous,(gh..) (:)<br />But(gf) the(gh) Lord(hr) delivers() them() out(hjh) of(g) them(fff) all.(d.) (::Z)<br />5. He(f) keeps(gh) all(hjh) their(hg) bones,(gh..) (:)<br />Not(gf) one(gh) of(h) them(hjh) is(g) brok(fff)en.(d.) (::)<br /></div></blockquote>]]></description>
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      <title>Chanting the Divine Office/Liturgy of the Hours in English. How to? Instructional Resources?</title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>LauraYeager</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[JMJ   Praised be Jesus Christ!<br /><br />I am trying to learn how to properly chant the Divine Office in English. I am currently using ye "new-fangled" one volume Christian Prayer, published in 1972? A Catholic Retreat Center close to my home has begun doing Solemn Vespers and wants to chant them, and everyone who goes uses the Christian Prayer I just mentioned. They have asked me and my family to learn how to chant it, and then come and teach them.<br /><br />We began by trying to learn from the little instructional section in the back of the prayer book, but decided that the psalm tones there did not sound very Gregorian (upon further investigation, we learned that the composers were going for a more "Hebrew/Israeli" sound in order to bring us more in touch with our Biblical Jewish roots), and they were not, shall I say, "anticipatable" melody lines. I found that the instructions in general were difficult to interpret or follow unless one is already well acquainted with chanting psalms and the Office! Ha!<br /><br />So, my questions are:<br />1. Does anyone know of a book or resource which could instruct me about the basic rudiments of how to chant the Office?<br />Then instruction about the traditional way of properly chanting it.<br /><br />2. Also, at the Colloquium I recently attended, we sang morning prayer and night prayer - and having the notation above the text was just splendid. I wondered if that was taken from Deacon Pat Cunningham's Gregorian English Divine Office.<br /><br />3. What comments can you make regarding the Mundelein Psalter? It's format, ease of use, worthiness, etc.<br />I would love to switch to a Liturgy of the Hours book which has the notation in it - even then I could make copies from it for the other people who don't have the book themselves, but are there to sing vespers. Maybe this book is "the answer" I am seeking. <br /><br />I think that's everything... for now... thank you! God bless you.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 20:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>SirPL</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Recently, I came across the new edition of <i>The Order of Religious Professions</i>. I was surprised to find that it includes melodies for the antiphons, which are drawn from (or inspired by) Gregorian chant.<br /><br />Two of the antiphons can be seen in the <a rel="nofollow" href="https://theologicalforum.org/wp-content/uploads/ORP-Preview.pdf">PDF preview</a>.<br /><br />I checked, and the Latin typical edition doesn't include any melodies. So, I started searching through antiphonal books. As an example, according to the GregoBase, the antiphon <i>Hæc est generatio</i> is found in the <a rel="nofollow" href="https://gregobase.selapa.net/chant.php?id=16402">Nocturnale Romanum</a> in mode III (just like its English translation <i>This is the people</i>), but the melodies differ significantly.<br /><br />Does anyone have an idea where the translators sourced the melodies for these antiphons?]]></description>
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      <title>Setting English Texts to Gregorian Psalm Tones</title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bruce E. Ford</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Recently I have seen several postings about setting English psalm texts to Gregorian psalm tones.   I decided to post my own thoughts.  I sat down to write this morning and ended up spending most of the day on the task.  Since my essay extends to 11 pages and includes musical examples, I have elected to attach it as a .pdf.<br />
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      <title>The Divine Mercy Chaplet Chanted in English (in Chant Notation)</title>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2026 22:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>ian_udell</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[To my knowlege this is the only rendition of the Chaplet to chant notation. Enjoy!]]></description>
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      <title>EF Antiphonale Romanum in English</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Adoremus</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Hello. I’m wondering whether an English adaptation of the Antiphonale Romanum was ever produced for use with the Divine Office in the Extraordinary Form. Specifically, I’m curious if any such adaptation emerged in the period following the Second Vatican Council but prior to the promulgation of the Liturgy of the Hours.<br /><br />I’m aware of an English Vesperal adapted from the monastic Antiphonale by a Benedictine community in the 1960s—a PDF of which is available on the Internet Archive. I’m also familiar with various English antiphonaries of Anglican origin.<br /><br />However, my question concerns the Roman Antiphonale in particular. Was there ever an English version made, possibly by a religious community during that transitional period? Thank you!<br />]]></description>
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      <title>Adapted Tenebrae Booklet (After Fr. Weber)</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23300/adapted-tenebrae-booklet-after-fr.-weber</link>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 16:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>AnimaVocis</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Here is our book of Tenebrae adapted for use at St. Mary's in Sleepy Eye, MN. <br /><br />I understand that many may not wish to use this becuase it is neither the Vetus Ordo office, nor is it the modern office equivalent - it is a Paraliturgical service, based on the structure of the Vetus Ordo Tenebrae, and utilizing all of its parts from excerpts of "old" Tenebrae. <br /><br />The [historic - 1535/1662] Coverdale Psalter has been used here due to its longstanding tradition and adaptability for being sung (whereas the Douay-Rheims doesn't sing as well).<br /><br />Feel free to peruse, use, or adapt as needed (and I am happy to send files if need be)!<br />God bless you all this Triduum!]]></description>
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      <title>Ferial Propers for the Easter Season</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/6666/ferial-propers-for-the-easter-season</link>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Here are my ferial english propers for the Octave of Easter, in the style of Simple English Propers. For those proper texts already contained in SEP, only page citations are included to the book, including the incipit. The original latin texts are from the Graduale Romanum, and the translations come from various sources (I can provide sources if you want). Edit: I am now including the actual music from SEP, instead of just a page citation.<br /><br /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://blog.yankehome.com/missal-antiphons/getfile.php?file=easter_octave"><b><span style="text-decoration: underline;">SEP for the Octave of Easter</span></b></a><br /><br />It's a little big, so it may take a minute to load the PDF.<br /><br />I know it might be a little late for some. Sorry about the delay. <img src="http://blog.yankehome.com/missal-antiphons/getfile.php?file=statcheck" width="1px" height="1px" alt="image" /> ]]></description>
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      <title>Good Friday Sung Passion</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22155/good-friday-sung-passion</link>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2025 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>wspinnen</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[For those who do the sung Passion on Good Friday (OF), can you point me to printed resources and practice tracks for clergy? This is going to be my first year doing it as a DOM. Thank you.]]></description>
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      <title>Missal Notation for Holy Week (vernacular)</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23260/missal-notation-for-holy-week-vernacular</link>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 22:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>maestrodicapella</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Dear Friends, does anyone know if there is a PDF available of the English Roman Missal chants for the Triduum in square notation?<br />Yes, the modern notation is available from ICEL website, but is there a source for square notes? I'm sure the Exsultet is available from various sources, but I was hoping for the rest. <br />Thank you. ]]></description>
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      <title>St David&#039;s Day in California</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2022 02:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Richard Mix</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[St David’s Day<br /><br />7:00 PM Tuesday, March 1, 2022 <br /><br />at Saint David of Wales Catholic Church,<br />5641 Esmond Ave. Richmond CA 94805<br /><br />	Join us on Mardi Gras for Vespers of our patron saint, with chants from the 14th century Penpont Antiphoner. In addition to the English Psalms and hymns which all are invited to sing, experienced choral singers who are able to rehearse beforehand at 6:00 sharp are welcome to join the parish choir in the Magnificat from the First Service by the Tudor composer Thomas Thomkins, son of the organist at St David’s Cathedral in Wales. <br />]]></description>
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      <title>Qui meditabitur</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23133/qui-meditabitur</link>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 23:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Richard Mix</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[On <a rel="nofollow" href="https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/16918/qui-meditabitur-el-que-medita/p1">another thread I've posted a Spanish version</a> of the Ash Wednesday Communion but now I've revisiting the English, Bruce Ford's <i>The American Gradual</i> using the <i>ti</i> reciting tone for mode 3 (to which our congregation knows the doxology with <i>do</i>).<br /><br /><blockquote><div>name: Ash Wednesday;<br />user-notes: Qui meditabitur;<br />commentary: (loosely after The American Gradual);<br />annotation: Comm iii;<br />centering-scheme: english;<br />%fontsize: 12;<br />%spacing: vichi;<br />%font: OFLSortsMillGoudy;<br />%width: 4.5;<br />%height: 11;<br />%%<br />(c4)<br />Those(ed) who(g) med(hj)i(j)tate(j.) *() on(j) the(ih) law(ijkj) of(hi) the(j) Lord(ig) (,) day(h) and(gf) night(ixf/ghig/hgegfffe..) (:)<br />will(h) bring(ghg/hiwj) forth(gf) fruit(efgvFEfvEDfd/efef.) (,)<br />in(de) due(gh) sea(g.dewf/egff)son.(fe..) (::)<br />Hap(g)py(hj) are(jr) they() who() have() not() walked() in() the() council() of(k) the(j) wick(ih)ed,(jjj) (:z)<br />nor(ig) lin(hj)gered(jr) in() the() way() of() sinners,() nor() sat() in() the() seat(jji) of(hg) the(hi) scorn(g)ful.(h.) (::)</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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      <title>Fr. Samuel Weber&#039;s &quot;The Proper of the Mass&quot; now complete. Volume 4 finished</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/19663/fr.-samuel-weber039s-the-proper-of-the-mass-now-complete.-volume-4-finished</link>
      <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2022 00:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>MarkB</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I'll compile all the links for a complete set of Fr. Weber's useful collection in this entry.<br /><br />Go here for links to purchase all four hardbound volumes, <a href="/forum/search?Search=%231&amp;Mode=like">#1</a> from Ignatius Press and ##2-4 from Lulu:<br /><a href="https://sacredmusicus.wordpress.com/2022/01/05/proper-of-the-mass-all-links/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://sacredmusicus.wordpress.com/2022/01/05/proper-of-the-mass-all-links/</a><br /><br />Download links for pdfs:<br />Volume 1: available from Ignatius Press with receipt showing proof of purchase (details on product info page)<br />Volume 2: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dufN-NhkFEguVqchbHtu9Qq_Cr5IcT4K/view" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dufN-NhkFEguVqchbHtu9Qq_Cr5IcT4K/view</a><br />Volume 3: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/12c81rZmEz9JjjDfzivFDgCWZZaXs0hH3/view" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://drive.google.com/file/d/12c81rZmEz9JjjDfzivFDgCWZZaXs0hH3/view</a><br />Volume 4: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nZHwu-AjKFooi0AIZtAQeVH4N0pHsjFT/view" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nZHwu-AjKFooi0AIZtAQeVH4N0pHsjFT/view</a><br /><br />As proof that I'm not sharing links to the pdfs that are not publicly available, here are the publicly available source websites:<br />Volumes 2-3: <a href="https://www.ccwatershed.org/2020/10/16/indispensable-samuel-weber-propers-english/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.ccwatershed.org/2020/10/16/indispensable-samuel-weber-propers-english/</a><br /><br />Note: the link to Volume 4 at the above webpage is to an incomplete version; below is for the complete version:<br />Volume 4: <a href="https://sacredmusicus.wordpress.com/2021/12/22/proper-of-the-mass-vol-4/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://sacredmusicus.wordpress.com/2021/12/22/proper-of-the-mass-vol-4/</a><br />]]></description>
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      <title>Simple English Propers at Our Lady of Guadalupe Shrine, La Crosse, WI</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/5316/simple-english-propers-at-our-lady-of-guadalupe-shrine-la-crosse-wi</link>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Aristotle Esguerra</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cantemusdomino.net/2011/08/01/simple-english-propers-to-debut-at-our-lady-of-guadalupe-shrine/">details here</a><br /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cantemusdomino.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/110807-19sun-ot-a-la-crosse.pdf">order of worship [PDF]</a>]]></description>
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      <title>Vernacular ICEL Te Deum accompaniment</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22976/vernacular-icel-te-deum-accompaniment</link>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 03:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>maestrodicapella</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Is anyone willing to share an organ accompaniment for the ICEL Te Deum as found in the new Ordination of Bishops ritual?<br /><a href="https://www.usccb.org/resources/obpd-i-te-deum.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.usccb.org/resources/obpd-i-te-deum.pdf</a><br /><br />Thanks. ]]></description>
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      <title>Use of (Roman) Tonus In Directum with English</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22918/use-of-roman-tonus-in-directum-with-english</link>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 12:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>BGP</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[You would think it simple, and for the mediation it is. Ironically, the super simple ending is giving me trouble.<br />In Latin you simply drop Do to La after the final accented syllable. English however, is full of monosyllables and accented final syllables, and I can't decide what to do/have confused myself. What do yall think of the following solution (the slash is where you depart DO)<br /><br />Strong/Weak. (same structure as Latin no problem)<br />Strong/WeakWeak. (same structure as Latin no problem)<br />WeakStrong/Weak. (same structure as Latin no problem)<br />Mono / Mono.<br />Strong/Weak Mono.<br />WeakStrong / Mono.<br /><br />Or just use the Monastic tone, which is recto tono for the second half?<br />----<br />Edit- one problem is something like, <i>Mono Mono Mono</i> where the words themselves have shades of strength in relation to each other from the sentence/phrase, not intrinsic to the words themselves.<br />]]></description>
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      <title>Aufer a me for OT 28</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22906/aufer-a-me-for-ot-28</link>
      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 03:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Richard Mix</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I miss not being able to discuss things with Bruce! A couple of weeks ago we had guest singers, and I had to make an "as sung at St David's" version of his Comm. from <i>The American Gradual.</i> Here's a pdf and the gabc code:<br /><br /><blockquote><div><br />name: Aufer a me;<br />user-notes: OT 28 ;<br />commentary: Ps. 118:22;<br />annotation: Comm. ii ;<br />centering-scheme: english;<br />%fontsize: 12;<br />%spacing: vichi;<br />%font: OFLSortsMillGoudy;<br />%width: 4.5;<br />%height: 11;<br />%%<br />(c4)<br />Take(fg) a(g)way(gh) from(g) me(fghvhg.) *(,) all(fe) shame(fh) and(gf) re(g)buke,(d.) (;) for(dc) I(dfe) have(fd) fol(fhg)lowed(g) your(ef) de(ed)crees,(ege) (,) O(fe) Lord.(d.) (:) Your(efe) de(d)crees(efe) are(d) my(e) de(dc)light,(da..) (;) and(cd) they(dfED) are(cd) my(d) coun(dfEDe)sel(d)ors.(d.) (::Z)<br />1. Hap(c)py(dc) are(cf) they(f) whose(fe) way(fg) is(g) blame(fg)less:(f.) (:) who(fd) walk(df) in(f) the(g) law(fd) of(f) the(ec) Lord.(ded.) (::Z)<br />2. Hap(c)py(dc) are(cf) they(f) who(f) keep(f) your(fe) tes(fg)te(g)mo(fg)nies(f.) (:) and(fd) seek(df) you(g) with(fd) their(f) whole(ec) hearts.(ded.) (::Z)<br />Glo(c)ry(dc) be(cf) to(fr) the() Father,() and() to() the() Son,(f.) (,) and(f) to(f) the(fe) Ho(fg)ly(g) Spir(fg)it.(f.) (:) As(fd) it(df) was(fr) in() the() beginning,() is() now,() and(fe) ev(fg)er(g) shall(fg) be,(f) (;) world(f) with(g)out(fd) end.(f) A(ec)men.(ded.) (::)<br /></div></blockquote>]]></description>
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      <title>Has the Palmer-Burgess Plainchant Gradual been approved for use in the Ordinary Form?</title>
      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22837/has-the-palmer-burgess-plainchant-gradual-been-approved-for-use-in-the-ordinary-form</link>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2025 15:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Michael_Osborne</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2013 00:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris_McAvoy</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I typeset my own version of Rorate Caeli in english, according to the Douay Rheims bible. I am attaching it to this post. For whaetever reason I could not attach it to the forum, so here it is on this link:<br /><a rel="nofollow" href="https://app.box.com/s/133wi8i3ty95xrrt5g8h">https://app.box.com/s/133wi8i3ty95xrrt5g8h</a><br /><br />For comparison here is the original anglican version of it. <br /><br /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.stgregoryoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/AdventProse.pdf">http://www.stgregoryoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/AdventProse.pdf</a><br /><br />The main difference in the more common anglican version, compared to my own is that the original verse 3 in latin was ommitted because it was a non-biblical text (protestant ideaology?).<br /><br />I hold the view that some aspects of the Anglican protestant/catholic patrimony deserve to be corrected to fully reflect the orthodoxy of the official septuagint and vulgate bibles of the catholic/orthodox churches. Therefore it behooved me to make certain that this famous prose existed in a more literal accurate translation based upon something closer to an official catholic liturgical text in hieratic english. I hope someone finds this to be useful.<br /><br />There is also a corrected translation by "Archbishop" John LoBue, which is also more accurate though slightly different. <br /><a rel="nofollow" href="https://app.box.com/s/sukfns1mp3up8h8g8inf">https://app.box.com/s/sukfns1mp3up8h8g8inf</a><br /><br />A fourth version was made by Fr. Columba Kelly in comtemporary english. It was published in 1994 in the book "A Monastic Antiphonary - Vol. 1 - Advent". His version is also good, <br /><br />Lastly there is a fifth version of this in the 1970's edition of secular use "The Liturgy of the Hours" which is perhaps the most mediocre of them all.  <br /><br />I welcome any comments on these three versions in english. ]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>francis</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Never seen this before as a choice for Wedding Responsorial Psalm... does anyone know where it comes from?]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>ServiamScores</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Greetings all—<br />I've been trying to comb through old forum posts, but so far have come back empty handed.  I'm looking for the sheet music for the chaplet of divine mercy (simple english chant edition, not the sappy one).  I can see some threads here on the forum that have a version in latin, as well as Esguerra's adaptation into church mode 1 (which I rather like) however I need the chant-esque version which is sometimes on EWTN.  We are having special devotions on Thursday since it's our patronal feast day, and I've been asked to lead the chanting of the Diving Mercy Chaplet at 3pm.  Any help you can provide would be most welcome.]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>Richard Mix</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Our congregation sings an 'unreconstructed' mode 3 Gloria Patri, so I've put together Burgess &amp; Palmer's version of tomorrow's Communion.<br /><br /><blockquote><div>name: Untitled Document;<br />supertitle:;<br />title:Beatus servus;<br />subtitle:Communion OT 19 C;<br />text-left:Matt. 24:46;<br />text-right:Ps. 33/34;<br />annotation:iij.;<br />%%<br />(c4)(ix) Bles(exdde)sed(c) * is(cf) that(f) ser(gf/ghwihi)vant(ih) (,) whom(ij) his(i) Lord(jkj) when(i) he(hvGF)<br />com(ghg/hi)eth(h) (,) shall(fhg) find(fe) watch(df)ing:(c) (:) ve(cd)ri(f)ly(fe) I(d) say(d) un(f)to(ec) you,(c) (,)<br />he(f) shall(g) make(i) him(hg) ru(gfg)ler(fg) (,) o(ghi)ver(f) all(exfgFEfgf) his(exdfee) goods.(exed) (::Z)<br />1. I(f) will(gi) bless(ir) the() Lord(j) at(i) all(hg) times,(i.) (:) his(hf) praise(gi) shall(ir) be() al-()ways(g) in(i) my(i) mouth.(hg..) (::Z)<br />2. In(i) the(i) Lord(j) shall(i) my(i) soul(i) be(hg) praised;(i.) (:) let(hf) the(gi) meek(i) hear(i) and(g) re(i)joice.(hg..) (::Z)<br />3. O(f) mag(gi)ni(i)fy(j) the(i) Lord(i) with(hg) me;(i.) (:) and(hf) let(gi) us(ir) extoll() his() name(g) to(i)geth(h.)er(g.) (::Z)<br />Glo(g)ry(hj) be(jr) to() the() Father() and() to() the() Son,(j.) (,) and(jr) to() the() Ho(k)ly(j) Spir(ih)it:(j.) (:) as(ig) it(hj) was(j.) in() the() begining,(j.) (,) is(jr)<br /> now() and() ev(k)er(j) shall(ih) be,(jjj) world(j) with(j)out(jji) end.(hj) A(h)men.(gh..) (::)<br /></div></blockquote>]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2025 15:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Richard R.</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[I am releasing my English adaptation of (mostly) Antiphonale Romanum II (Solesmes 2009), using the texts from Christian Prayer: The Liturgy of the Hours (1976) (despairing as I am of living to see anything like a new translation of the Office), with hymn translations from ICEL (2019) and Prayers from the current Missal. In order to avoid copyright issues (I hope), I am offering these collections for download on Lulu.com at their nominal rate and without profit to myself:<br /><br /><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lulu.com/shop/richard-rice/evening-prayer-for-sundays-and-solemnities-i/ebook/product-yvy8k58.html?page=1&amp;pageSize=4">Volume 1: Advent, Christmas, and Epiphany</a><br /><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lulu.com/shop/richard-rice/evening-prayer-for-sundays-and-solemnities-ii/ebook/product-yvy8kk8.html?page=1&amp;pageSize=4">Volume 2: Lent, Easter, and Solemnities</a><br /><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lulu.com/shop/richard-rice/evening-prayer-for-sundays-and-solemnities-iii/ebook/product-zmy9zer.html?page=1&amp;pageSize=4">Volume 3: Sundays in Ordinary Time</a><br /><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lulu.com/shop/richard-rice/evening-prayer-for-sundays-and-solemnities-iv/ebook/product-nv9z6ry.html?page=1&amp;pageSize=4">Volume 4: Feasts of Saints</a><br /><br />This all should be self-explanatory, though it supposes at least some familiarity with the layout of the Office, the reading of square notes (with minimal rhythmic signs), and the use of traditional psalm tones (applied to English in my own debatable way). Feel free to contact me with questions or comments. I hope some might find the material helpful, if only as a guide to your own efforts in producing material for the Divine Office.<br /><br />Richard Rice<br />canticnov@aol.com]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2025 20:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>chonak</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[This discussion was created from comments split from: <a rel="nofollow" href="/forum/discussion/22501/where-to-find-english-propers-in-gregorian-chant">Where to find English propers in Gregorian chant?</a>.<br /><br />I have modified the title (which I assigned to this collection of comments) in order to clarify the meaning: the topic of the conversation was not whether a gradual <b>book</b> is licit (one that presents a collection of chants proposed for use as propers for the Mass, and possibly other chants also); but whether a vernacular gradual <b>chant</b> -- a chant sung after the first reading of Mass, analogous to the graduals found in the book <i>Graduale Romanum</i>, may be licit and under what circumstances.]]></description>
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      <link>https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/21687/veni-sancte-spiritus-in-spanish-chant-melody</link>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2024 22:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Paul F. Ford</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Can anyone share the <i>Veni, Sancte Spiritus</i> in Spanish using the chant melody? ]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2025 06:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Xopheros</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[The "Antiphonale Monasticum" (AM) from 2005 lists the attached Magnificat incipits for all verses and psalm tones.<br /><br />Is there a similar table for the <i>English</i> Magnificat in the translation used by the Book of Common Prayer (BCP)? The BCP texts are based on the King James translation (KJV) and, as far as I know, the incipits utilized in Evensongs deviate from those of the AM.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 12:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>OrdinariateCATHOLIC</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Hello I'm in an Ordinariate Evensong group; we chant the office according to St. Dunstan's plainsong Psalter (Albeit with a few text edits to make it align with DWDO NAE). St. Dunstan's does not include any setting for the Angelus to be chanted in english. I have heard it done and seen such even on youtube; but I cannot manage to find any chant music for it. I was wondering if anyone could help me find where to find it set in english? Preferably it'd be square notes, but it's perfectly fine if it uses "normal" staff music. ]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 13:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>ServiamScores</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[Greetings all —<br />I have inherited a very old copy of a copy of a copy of a setting of the Lamentations adapted into English.  It's fine enough, but I don't know it's provenance, and, frankly, I'd like to have something better.  Before I go to the lengths required to arduously re-transcribe from the originals, I'm wondering if anyone has already done this and is willing to share, or if anyone can point me to nice editions that are downloadable (even if paid).<br />Thanks!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2015 03:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>CHGiffen</dc:creator>
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      <description><![CDATA[<b>Note:</b> The edition posted here has been superseded by the one posted further down this thread on 2015-03-16.<br /><br />Here is my adaptation and arrangement of the Good Friday Passion According to John, set to the Dombinican chant tone, using the English language Lectionary (NAB) text.  In the past I have sung this several times (in the 1980s &amp; 1990s), but with the RSV text, at St. Thomas Aquinas (the Dominican staffed parish for UVa).  In response to a request, I prepared this version using the current Lectionary text, which will be chanted on Good Friday this year at St Patrick's in Hudson, Wisconsin, with Fr. Patrick McConnell singing the part of Christ and me singing the part of the Evangelist.<br /><br />This should be regarded somewhat as a preliminary edition, since I might wish to make a few minor changes as we prepare it for this coming Good Friday of the Lord's Passion.  I've already sung through it a few times, though, and it reflects fairly well my prior experience with the older English language Dominican version (RSV text).  So it can certainly be sung "as is" without undue difficulty.<br /><br />The enclosed score is set two ways: (1) with the tenor G-clef (treble 8vb clef), with middle C on the 3rd space, and (2) with tenor C-clef, middle C on the 4th line.  In each case, C functions as the chant "Doh" for the purposes of any necessary transposition.  At some point, I anticipate preparing a score in chant notation (neumes).<br /><br /><b>Note:</b> Updated 2015-03-10]]></description>
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