Graduale Simplex - MusicaSacra Church Music Forum https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/categories/gregorian-chant-graduale-simplex/feed.rss Sun, 17 May 26 02:49:48 +0000 Graduale Simplex - MusicaSacra Church Music Forum en-CA Graduale Parvum https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/7415/graduale-parvum Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:27:00 +0000 Jeffrey Tucker 7415@/forum/discussions Graduale Parvum as it currently exists and has existed for some years. It is a long way from completion:

* The texts are not in line with the ICEL translation but they are good translations that are entirely suitable for sung liturgical use
* The Psalm pointing appears to correspond with Westminster practice that is unfamiliar outside that venue
* There are no offertories

Still, there is widespread interest in this book, so I hope this satisfies that interest. Perhaps they can be adapted by enterprising musicians. As you can see, there is a long, long way to go before a final publishable edition is produced. ]]> Simplex in Italian https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/2218/simplex-in-italian Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:24:31 +0000 Jeffrey Tucker 2218@/forum/discussions

I'm an Italian priest belonging to the Diocese of Frosinone-Veroli-Ferentino.

I apologize for my English, I hope you can understand me.

It's a long time I've been following your web-site NLM and I thank you and all your team for the excellent work you're doing for the God's glory and for His Church.

I'm trying to do something similar to Fr. Samuel F. Weber's work for italian liturgy and, after the work he published on your web-site some days ago, I dare ask you for a plea. My desire is to carry out a Gradual Simplex in Italian language. If there's anybody in Italy interested in joining this plan he can contact me at my e-mail address: respa.gm@libero.it

I'm very grateful to you for the care you show for the liturgy and for the Holy Father.

God bless all of us.

Veroli, 6 August 2009, Transfiguration of our Lord, Jesus Christ

Father Giacinto Mancini

]]> Does anyone use the Graduale Simplex on a regular basis? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/8100/does-anyone-use-the-graduale-simplex-on-a-regular-basis Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:53:52 +0000 matthewj 8100@/forum/discussions
To what extent (if any) do you use the Graduale Simplex in your program?]]> Recordings of the Graduale Simplex https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/20466/recordings-of-the-graduale-simplex Mon, 05 Dec 2022 15:33:27 +0000 josephw 20466@/forum/discussions
I have recently undertaken the process of recording the chants of the Graduale Simplex. Anyone who might be interested can find them at my channel here -> https://www.youtube.com/@churchminor

After purchasing a copy of the Simplex, I noticed a lack of available recordings, something that I find very useful when trying to learn a new repertoire; So I am hoping this can be of service to someone in a similar situation. :)]]> Looking for a copy of Graduale Simplex 1967 Edition? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/20669/looking-for-a-copy-of-graduale-simplex-1967-edition Mon, 20 Feb 2023 16:51:35 +0000 LaercioSousa 20669@/forum/discussions ISO Accompaniment - Ordinarium III https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/19019/iso-accompaniment-ordinarium-iii Sun, 16 May 2021 13:18:30 +0000 MaestroMark32 19019@/forum/discussions
Would anyone happen to have an accompaniment for the Agnus Dei from Ordinarium III of the Graduale Simplex?

I found an accompaniment for the Sanctus in English from the Ignatius Pew Missal that works well, but cannot find anything for the Agnus Dei.

Thanks,
~Mark]]> wedding antiphons and psalms from the Graduale Simplex https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22816/wedding-antiphons-and-psalms-from-the-graduale-simplex Wed, 24 Sep 2025 17:35:31 +0000 Paul F. Ford 22816@/forum/discussions Graduale Simplex.]]> who asked me to comment on a Graduale Simplex issue? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22811/who-asked-me-to-comment-on-a-graduale-simplex-issue Sun, 21 Sep 2025 22:24:01 +0000 Paul F. Ford 22811@/forum/discussions Graduale Simplex issue.

I can't find the discussion. Can anyone help?

Aside from blaming my age, I have had a rough summer of diagnostics and emergency room visits. They discovered that my problem in my gallbladder. I am having it out on October 7. Please pray: I have liver complications.

Thanks,
Paul]]> Feast of St Joachim and Anne https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22607/feast-of-st-joachim-and-anne Sun, 06 Jul 2025 15:31:47 +0000 birdylanfern 22607@/forum/discussions
The feast of the parents of the B.V.M. is arriving, and I have a question.

The introit found in the Graduale Romanum for the feast is Sapientia Sanctorum.

The introit found in the Graduale Simplex for the Common of Saints is Iustus ut Palma.

I was wondering whether it is allowed (using a strict interpretation of the rubrics), to chant the simple version of the Sapientia Sanctorum found in the Graduale Simplex, under the Common of Martyrs.]]> The Graduale Simplex (and the feast of the Visitation) https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22504/the-graduale-simplex-and-the-feast-of-the-visitation Tue, 20 May 2025 14:51:50 +0000 birdylanfern 22504@/forum/discussions I am new to using the Graduale Simplex. I plan to use it for a Mass on the 31st of May (the feast of the Visitation), but I notice that there is no proper chants for that particular feast. Does this mean that I use the Common of the Blessed Virgin Mary?

(The Graduale Romanum chants are too difficult for my choir members)]]> Allelúia Tempus Paschale Graduale Simplex https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22506/alleluia-tempus-paschale-graduale-simplex Wed, 21 May 2025 21:17:48 +0000 eduardopinzon00 22506@/forum/discussions ]]> The Graduale Simplex in Spanish https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/21638/the-graduale-simplex-in-spanish Sun, 14 Apr 2024 23:04:22 +0000 Paul F. Ford 21638@/forum/discussions Gradual simplex en español: Según lo establecido por el Sacrosanto Concilio Vaticano II en la Constitución sobre la Sagrada Liturgia (Spanish Edition) is now available on Amazon. $30.00. vii + 580 pages. 5 1/4 x 8 x 1 1/2. ISBN 9789564048161 paperback. perfect bound. ©2021 Mario Zelada Orellana

My copy just arrived yesterday and it is gorgeous. I need to study it further, but it could be the answer to many prayers.]]> ASPERGES ME: Is it used in the Novus Ordo Mass ? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/5229/asperges-me-is-it-used-in-the-novus-ordo-mass- Sat, 09 Jul 2011 13:18:01 +0000 Ragueneau 5229@/forum/discussions FROM ICEL

These two antiphons are in the Missal in Appendix II (Rite for the Blessing and Sprinkling of Water) for use Outside Easter Season. They have not been changed recently. ICEL did not do a musical setting of either since the texts do not appear with chant in the Missal.

Antiphon 1 • Ps 50: 9
Sprinkle me with hyssop, O Lord, and I shall be cleansed; wash me and I shall be whiter than snow.

Antiphon 2 • Ez 36: 25-26
I will pour clean water upon you, and you will be made clean of all your impurities, and I shall give you a new spirit, says the Lord.

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I was wondering if anyone had to hand the General Introduction of the Lectionary for Mass, and could point me in the right direction:

After a year of experimenting with the use of the Gradual (from the Graduale Romanum) and the Psalmus Responsorius (from the Graduale Simplex), I will be moving back to a greater use of the Lectionary Psalms, while retaining the Gradual for certain "Red Letter" days (like "Haec dies" on Easter Sunday), and the Simplex Psalms for the Triduum and other days.

My question is, does the GILM permit the Responsorial Psalm from the Lectionary to be sung in the same manner as the Psalmus Responsorius from the Graduale Simplex, that is, with the Respond sung after each verse, rather than after each strophe? (I believe that Collegeville's "Psallite" collection does this, but I haven't seen the book in person.)

After using all methods, I do believe that for sung Responsorial Psalms the performance practice of the Simplex is the more logical, traditional, organically developed, and, if you'll excuse the phrase, pastoral manner of performance; while at the same time, the connections with the readings with the Lectionary Psalms and the proper Graduals is often preferable to the seasonal Psalms of the Simplex; and the melismatic music of the Graduals more conducive to meditation. (At some point, I would like to experiment with a form that combines the best aspects of each of these forms.)

Thanks for your help.]]> Looking for Easter Vigils Psalms (Latin) Graduale Simplex https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/19737/looking-for-easter-vigils-psalms-latin-graduale-simplex Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:35:13 +0000 Salieri 19737@/forum/discussions Graduale Simplex: I have By Flowing Waters, which has all of them in English, but the PDF of the Simplex on the Resources page only has the Psalms for after the III, V, VI, & VII Lessons. My parish uses only the first three readings and the Epistle; so I am looking, specifically for Psalm 104 for after the I Lesson, and Psalm 16 for after the II Lesson.]]> Graduale Simplex - is it worth it? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/2361/graduale-simplex-is-it-worth-it Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:37:05 +0000 quilisma 2361@/forum/discussions A quick internet search brings up many more negative comments than positive ones for this book - so I ask myself if the GS does work as a vehicle for congregational involvement. If it doesn't then we might as well just stick with the authentic chants from the GR and gradually wean the congregation off their hymns rather than passing through an intermediate stage.

You thoughts please.....]]> Agnus from Kyriale Simplex, Missa IV https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/19284/agnus-from-kyriale-simplex-missa-iv Mon, 23 Aug 2021 15:09:55 +0000 JonLaird 19284@/forum/discussions Graduale Simplex, Missa IV, p33, such as where it is from or what other books it appears in, if any? As far as I can tell, it is not in the Kyriale Romanum.]]> Simple Gradual ICEL 1968 translation https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/8943/simple-gradual-icel-1968-translation Sun, 26 May 2013 21:02:57 +0000 Paul F. Ford 8943@/forum/discussions https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7331043/Simple Gradual ICEL 1968 translation.pdf

It is 5.6 MB in size. It has my pencilled annotations throughout.]]> Is Graduale Simplex (1967 edition) applicable to Extraordinary Form of Roman Rite? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/18731/is-graduale-simplex-1967-edition-applicable-to-extraordinary-form-of-roman-rite Tue, 02 Feb 2021 12:42:22 +0000 LaercioSousa 18731@/forum/discussions Inversion of roles. https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/15144/inversion-of-roles. Fri, 14 Jul 2017 17:49:47 +0000 a_f_hawkins 15144@/forum/discussions Holy Wednesday chants from the Graduale Simplex https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/14805/holy-wednesday-chants-from-the-graduale-simplex Fri, 07 Apr 2017 02:52:42 +0000 balaanghuni 14805@/forum/discussions
The GS, however, does not provide the chants for Holy Wednesday. Should we just use the GS chants for the previous Sunday (i.e., Palm Sunday, which, according to the GS, uses the same suite as that of Lent Week 5)?

Also, where can I find an online English translation of the GS's praenotanda and rubrics? We'd very much love to be able to sing the GS chants according to its internal rules, but none in our schola is proficient in Latin. Thanks in advance for any help that you can provide.]]> Best baby-step after XVIII? Kyriale Simplex? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/14531/best-baby-step-after-xviii-kyriale-simplex Mon, 16 Jan 2017 04:37:02 +0000 princehal 14531@/forum/discussions
Now that it's OT, I see a few options for these two parts:

a) Switch these to something tricky like De Angelis and sing without the congregation (Bad idea: the choir has no time and the congregation loves to sing)
b) Switch them back to "Mass of Remembrance" settings as usual (Is it wise to keep limiting latin and chant to Lent and Advent?)
c) Keep the XVIII and dress it up with some organ accompaniment (I'm worried that would still get old after a whole year), or
d) Teach the congregation a Kyriale Simplex setting like Bartlett describes here (Seems like a logical step but they’re totally new to me; I'm poring over them now and not at all sure which ones I like best)

So the question is: a) What K.S. setting would you use as the next baby-step from Mass XVIII in OT? Or b) Do you have another suggestion that also fits the bill?

Thanks so much! Thomas]]> Graduale Simplex: suggested use in OT https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/10732/graduale-simplex-suggested-use-in-ot Fri, 16 May 2014 11:08:14 +0000 smvanroode 10732@/forum/discussions list of suggested uses of the Graduale Simplex (or By Flowing Waters, or Choral Graduale Simplex) outside Ordinary Time.

However, Ordinary Time is treated very generally, as do the Music Suggestions of canticanova.com ("Choose one Antiphona ad introitum and Psalmus from any of the eight Masses for Ordinary Time").

I would like to make a list of suggested uses of the Simple Gradual for Ordinary Time. Are there any of you who use the Graduale Simplex (in Latin or an vernacular adaptation) on a regular basis and would like to share their choices or music programs for Ordinary Time?]]> How to sing an “Alleluia” taken from the Graduale Simplex https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/8729/how-to-sing-an-alleluia-taken-from-the-graduale-simplex Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:48:42 +0000 Quentin 8729@/forum/discussions
I have two questions regarding an alleluia taken from (Ben Yanke's) Graduale Simplex (pp. 227-228):

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(1) There are two verses: “In te Domine speravi” and “Inclina ad me aurem tuam”. Must one sing either one or the other verse, or both verses? In other words:
– just “℣ Alleluia, ℟ Alleluia, ℣ In te Domine speravi, ℟ Alleluia” (e.g.) or:
– “℣ Alleluia, ℟ Alleluia, ℣ In te Domine speravi, ℟ Alleluia, ℣ Inclina ad me, ℟ Alleluia”?

(2) If both verses must be sung, when should the congregation rise? Just at the beginning of the first “Alleluia”, as in most OF masses in vernacular language where only one verse is sung between the two “Alleluia” series, or just before the last “Alleluia” series, as it is customary in masses where the several minutes long “Alleluia” from the Graduale Romanum is used?

Thanks for your help,
Quentin]]> Help with scripture citation https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/11281/help-with-scripture-citation Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:37:05 +0000 rogue63 11281@/forum/discussions
Bene fundata est domus Domini supra firmam petram.
The house of the Lord is firmly built upon a rock. (my rough translation)

Does this come from a psalm? An epistle? Whence? The GS give no information about it.
]]> Graduale Simplex: suggested use in ferias of OT https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/11027/graduale-simplex-suggested-use-in-ferias-of-ot Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:16:54 +0000 Aristotle Esguerra 11027@/forum/discussions Graduale Simplex: suggested use in OT, here is a link to a similar project:

Graduale Simplex: suggested use in ferias of OT.

The principles for suggesting antiphons differ from those of Steven's table, as this is an attempt to organize the GS-designated Ordinary Time Introits, Offertories, and Communions according to how music tends to be recommended for most Ordinary-Form Masses, i.e., themes found in the lectionary readings instead of the Roman Gradual or Missal.

One sheet contains the table of suggestions and a link to the USCCB's lectionary website; another sheet contains the 24 antiphons and their English translations. Contributors may post suggestions via comment on the first sheet.]]> Graduale simplex accompaniment https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/10483/graduale-simplex-accompaniment Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:58:15 +0000 AyrtonLSinnaeve 10483@/forum/discussions
Can anyone help? (They're not in the liber usualis, nor in the antiphonale or the vesperale)]]> Page [34] is damaged in Chants Abreges https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/2700/page-34-is-damaged-in-chants-abreges Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:59:35 +0000 Ragueneau 2700@/forum/discussions
Page [34] is damaged in the Chants Abreges.

Can anyone help?]]> a second "edition" of By Flowing Waters https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/3700/a-second-edition-of-by-flowing-waters Sat, 03 Jul 2010 09:53:16 +0000 Paul F. Ford 3700@/forum/discussions By Flowing Waters: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117365751610687. There I have made available a link to the 35' film on Vimeo explaining what the book is and how to use the book.

I have just announced a second "edition," one that will correct the errors I and others have noticed, make improvements, and incorporate the new English translation of the Roman Missal.

I say "edition," because I may just make the whole thing available on a CD so that you can print out the revised pages you need for your schola.

Sometime during the course of the 2011 Louisville convention of the National Association of Pastoral Musicians there will be a scheduled conversation about how By Flowing Waters is being used in parishes and schools, about the changes in the text as a result of the New Edition of the Order of the Mass, and any other subject you wish me to address.

I will have more information about the Spanish edition at that time as well.

Blessings,
Paul]]> Using Graduale Simplex ad libitum Communions seasonally https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/9951/using-graduale-simplex-ad-libitum-communions-seasonally Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:37:23 +0000 Aristotle Esguerra 9951@/forum/discussions JPike1028's inquiry into seasonal Lenten communions.)

The Graduale Simplex* recommends the following ad libitum Communions (pp. 454–462):

— Alleluia/Ps 33(34) (p. 454);
— Gustate/Ps 33(34) (p. 460);
— Sanctum nomen Domini/Magnificat (p. 338);
— Ego sum…(alleluia)/Ps 22(23) (p. 207);
— Ubi caritas (p. 133).

Some seem to be better suited for particular seasons:

— Advent/Christmas Time: Sanctum nomen Domini, Ego sum panis
— Lent/Holy Week: Gustate especially with verses 1–2 and 8–21, Ubi caritas
— Easter Time: Alleluia, Ubi caritas; Ego sum for 4th Sunday of Easter, unless there is an aversion to using Psalm 22(23) at multiple points of this Mass

Here are some SATB English settings of four of the above. Charles Thatcher's collection of Simplex communions (available from WLP) includes all of the above as well.

*large PDF]]>