General Discussion - MusicaSacra Church Music Forum https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/categories/general-discussion/feed.rss Wed, 13 May 26 04:19:17 +0000 General Discussion - MusicaSacra Church Music Forum en-CA Order of Mass (Ordinary Form) in Greek? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/18817/order-of-mass-ordinary-form-in-greek Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:08:35 +0000 Heath 18817@/forum/discussions
Lectionary readings would be a HUGE bonus!

Thanks.]]> Teaching the Liturgy and the Sacraments https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23355/teaching-the-liturgy-and-the-sacraments Thu, 23 Apr 2026 00:11:00 +0000 monasteryliturgist 23355@/forum/discussions
I cant give too much info on this, but please keep this soul in your prayers it is going to be a very difficult situation with his family. Thank you so much.]]> ISO: Official translations of quicumque vult https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23336/iso-official-translations-of-quicumque-vult Mon, 13 Apr 2026 22:42:52 +0000 ServiamScores 23336@/forum/discussions
I’m partial to older translations, but they use some opaque language in a few places, which makes me wonder whether or not it would be worth updating what we sing on Trinity Sunday to a more contemporary translation, but I’m coming up empty at the moment. TIYA

(I’m happy to receive links to any official versions, including older language / Anglican sources; I want to compare to what we’ve been using.)]]> Dorico (alternative to Sibelius / Finale / Lilypond) https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/19220/dorico-alternative-to-sibelius-finale-lilypond Wed, 28 Jul 2021 17:21:56 +0000 ServiamScores 19220@/forum/discussions This is slightly OT, but I know that Sibelius and Finale have been discussed here before. I just wanted to let anyone interested know that Dorico released a new version for ipad today, so if anyone is interested in trying Dorico out for free, this is a good chance to do so. the new ipad version is limited to two instruments (four if you log in with a steinberg account) although that can be expanded up to 12 if you pay a small annual fee.

FWIW, I use dorico pro (currently 3.5) and I LOVE it. I use it to make all my scores and it is very flexible for choral works and for transcriptions of chant. The new ipad version released today is nearly the full desktop program; it's actually quite surprising how much of it they were able to port over and keep the interface and functionality the same. To be clear, it's not 1:1, although it seems that is the end goal (or something close to it). Dorico 4 is expected this fall.

In future, if anyone has any Dorico questions, I'd be very happy to help. I'm active on that forum, and obviously I haunt here as well; my specialty is choral and chant engraving (and organ works) so I know many of the tricks to make these types of projects turn out very well.

Cheers,
James

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article about the new ipad version: https://blog.dorico.com/2021/07/dorico-for-ipad-available-now-free/
link to the homepage for the desktop version: https://new.steinberg.net/dorico/]]> Fulton Sheen https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23296/fulton-sheen Tue, 31 Mar 2026 23:31:42 +0000 MitziCee 23296@/forum/discussions Looking for a dissertation on parish musical life https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23191/looking-for-a-dissertation-on-parish-musical-life Mon, 23 Feb 2026 23:06:57 +0000 amindthatsuits 23191@/forum/discussions
I do not spend as much time on this website as I did 20 years ago, but I’m wondering if someone can help me. I remember there was highlighted maybe in the chant café, a Dr dissertation on parish musical life in the 1950s. This would have been posted around the time that the new translation came in, so I’m guessing around 2011 sometime. I of course downloaded it, but that file went the way of all flash drives and I have no hope of finding it in my records if anyone can direct me towards what I’m thinking of, I would be most grateful all the best.

Lenneth]]> Off topic - cleaning a thurible https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23221/off-topic-cleaning-a-thurible Sun, 08 Mar 2026 12:34:56 +0000 ElizabethS 23221@/forum/discussions Latin Question https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23215/latin-question Thu, 05 Mar 2026 17:16:51 +0000 ian_udell 23215@/forum/discussions
I am making a propers sheet for the Mass on an anniversary of a departed soul. I had a question about whether or not the Latin is correct?

The secret given is:

Propitiáre, Dómine, supplicatiónibus nostris, pro ánima fámuli tui N. (vel fámulæ tuæ N., vel animábus famulórum, famularúmque tuárum), cujus (vel quorum) hódie ánnua dies ágitur: pro qua (vel quibus) tibi offérimus sacrifícium laudis; ut eam (vel eas) Sanctórum tuórum consórtio sociáre dignéris.


But shouldn't it be this:

PROPITIÁRE, Dómine, supplicatiónibus nostris, pro ánima fámuli tui N., cujus (f. fámulæ tuæ N., cujus vel pl. animábus famulórum famularúmque tuárum, quorum) hódie ánnua dies ágitur: pro qua (pl. quibus) tibi offérimus sacrifícium laudis; ut eum (f. eam vel pl. eos) Sanctórum tuórum consórtio sociáre dignéris. Per Dóminum.

BE favorable, O Lord, to our pleadings for the soul(s) of thy servant N. (handmaid N., or servants and handmaids) whose anniversary is being celebrated today: for whom we offer the sacrifice of praise: that thou wouldst vouchsafe to grant him (her or them) fellowship with thy Saints. Through our Lord.

Is the secret given correct or is the modification correct. Am I missing something? Any help would be amazing.

]]> In case anyone might be interested in a scriptural rosary aid for personal devotion https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23150/in-case-anyone-might-be-interested-in-a-scriptural-rosary-aid-for-personal-devotion Tue, 10 Feb 2026 18:21:16 +0000 Liam 23150@/forum/discussions
It occurs to me to offer another personal devotional aid for daily prayer, especially in Lent, that also contains a Scriptural dimension - a form of illustrated Scriptural Rosary. This form has evolved over the course of several years from my own reflections. Some of my own choices for fruits of the mysteries do vary from typical ones - especially for the newer Luminous Mysteries (or Mysteries of Light) that some (or many) may eschew, but they reflect my own reflection on them. I also take a different approach for the 4th & 5th Sorrowful Mysteries - basically, a mash-up of the Stations of The Cross and the Seven Last Words, but NOT in traditional/conventional order but from an order that arose in connection with prayers for other people in distress before I even had the idea of developing the larger aid; if you find the re-arrangements distracting, do as you would prefer. This is just an aid for personal prayer and devotion, and I merely offer it on the remote chance that someone, someday, might find it fruitful in some way. It's designed so it can be viewed on a mobile or other device (I use the Book or Notes app on Apple devices) while praying with your beads (or without them if you don't have them with you!). (And there is some lovely art, including a back piece, as it were.)


* https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/15725/in-case-anyone-is-in-want-of-a-course-of-reading-of-the-gospels-for-lent#Item_1]]> Wedding Procedure https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22947/wedding-procedure Sat, 22 Nov 2025 19:30:07 +0000 FSSPmusic 22947@/forum/discussions Works that enter public domain on 1 Jan 2026 https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/23036/works-that-enter-public-domain-on-1-jan-2026 Wed, 31 Dec 2025 18:08:12 +0000 Liam 23036@/forum/discussions
https://publicdomainreview.org/features/entering-the-public-domain/2026/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_in_public_domain
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]]> How do I delete a Draft message? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22938/how-do-i-delete-a-draft-message Tue, 18 Nov 2025 09:33:08 +0000 probe 22938@/forum/discussions ]]> Para-liturgy for the Burial of Christ https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22929/para-liturgy-for-the-burial-of-christ Wed, 12 Nov 2025 13:10:44 +0000 PLTT 22929@/forum/discussions
Generally, such practices may be common in areas with Spanish/Portuguese influence (often under devotion to the "Santo Entierro/Enterro). It is like a funeral procession of Christ.

The version used in the Holy Sepulchre consists of Gospel readings in multiple languages, with several chants/responsories from Lent/Tenebrae interspersed. In Braga, it seems they mix a lament chant with the Stabat Mater or some other hymn. The other ones I have experienced thus far as very minimal with regard to prayer, featuring mostly the rosary and Stabat Mater, or instrumental music (like funeral marches) accompanying a procession. Nothing against those, but I am hoping to find something a little more thematic, focusing on the descent from the Cross/burial/entombment of the Lord.

I found an old thread on this forum where someone described a Polish custom, burying the Paschal Candle and featuring some Scripture readings. I'm hoping to get more information (if any) around practices like this.

]]> Home observance of the Church year https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22900/home-observance-of-the-church-year Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:35:53 +0000 Anna_Bendiksen 22900@/forum/discussions
What about you?]]> When the sopranos are so out of tune https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22588/when-the-sopranos-are-so-out-of-tune Fri, 27 Jun 2025 08:56:29 +0000 Ceci 22588@/forum/discussions Choir gallery https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22802/choir-gallery Wed, 17 Sep 2025 18:43:56 +0000 kevinf 22802@/forum/discussions
So now the project is off and running. The question is: if you could put whatever you wanted in a choir gallery, what would it be? Terraced levels for the choir? Risers instead? Chairs?Floor surface? Your thoughts and/or experience.

Kevin

]]> What do you do to fine tune your composition craftsmanship? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22774/what-do-you-do-to-fine-tune-your-composition-craftsmanship Sun, 07 Sep 2025 20:56:45 +0000 achoyce91 22774@/forum/discussions
After sticking to more than a decade using software instruments, it's time to use a pen, paper, and a piano. I tried composing a piece using text from the Diary of St. Faustina, but it's evident my craft is overreliant on software instruments (Vienna Symphonic Library, to be exact). For those who stick to a pen, paper, and piano, what exercises do you do to hone your craftsmanship? I'm sure 4-part writing is one as well as species counterpoint, but anything unique? Species counterpoint and 4-part writing are great, but they are taught EVERYWHERE (Yes, because they help), and I'd like some unique takes on personal routines y'all use to exercise the ear and brain. Creative responses preferred!

Thanks!
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If you don't know Arthur, he is the person who created the large format propers that are available on the ICKSP website. I imagine many people used them; I know I do every week.]]> Happy 4th of July https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22600/happy-4th-of-july Thu, 03 Jul 2025 14:18:33 +0000 bhcordova 22600@/forum/discussions Sacred Music Competitions? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22530/sacred-music-competitions Thu, 29 May 2025 19:06:49 +0000 RavenOrganist 22530@/forum/discussions This would be for composers, conductors, ensembles/instrumentalists, or all of the above.

I can't find any on google search, but I know they exist...somewhere

If you do, please provide the name and website link. I've so far reached out to the BXVI Institute, Una Voce, CC Watershed, New Liturgical Movement, CMA, the Liturgical Arts Journal, the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music, Anglicanorum Coetibus, and the Cardinal Newman Society. All have responded negatively.]]> . https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22483/. Tue, 13 May 2025 18:50:34 +0000 canadash 22483@/forum/discussions Richard Llewellyn? https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22507/richard-llewellyn Wed, 21 May 2025 22:04:52 +0000 OMagnumMysterium 22507@/forum/discussions Happy May Day! https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22445/happy-may-day Thu, 01 May 2025 14:30:46 +0000 bhcordova 22445@/forum/discussions Happy Anzac Day https://forum.musicasacra.com/forum/discussion/22427/happy-anzac-day Fri, 25 Apr 2025 14:03:03 +0000 bhcordova 22427@/forum/discussions