Interesting view of Anglo-Catholic Practice early 1900's
  • noel jones, aagonoel jones, aago
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    http://anglicanhistory.org/usa/ascension_chicago_giles/05.html

    For those who wore born after Vatican II, this article gives a really good presentation about the life of a Catholic priest in that era....even though this guy was Anglican.

    An excerpt:
    Fasting communion, Fr. Stoskopf taught, was an essential obligation. There was no question that the rule, well established from the earliest days, had the authority of the Universal Church. There was ample evidence that the rule was unquestioned and observed without exception from the days of the early Church to the Reformation. Even after that date, leading bishops of the Restoration period spoke of the practice as a "Catholic custom."

    The reasons for fasting communion were clear. In the first place, it was doing something for God, in St. Augustine's words, "in honor of so great a sacrament." Further, fasting reminded us that the sacrament was a gift of God to our whole nature. Receiving communion was a physical as well as mental action in a sense in which prayer was not. It was fitting that the bodily organism, as well as the mind and spirit, should have its proper preparation. Fasting communion assisted us to guard against a casual, careless, or perfunctory attitude toward performance of the most holy act which we could undertake.

    Mr. Emil Mallick, a former parishioner, recalled that as an acolyte at the Ascension in the 1930s he served Fr. Stoskopf at early weekday Mass. Seriously heeding the rector's injunction to fast, however, on two occasions he lost consciousness, knocking over the Sanctus gong while falling to the floor of the sanctuary. Each time, revived by a Sister of St. Anne and the rector, he continued to serve the Mass.

    [The Order of St. Anne was founded in 1910 by the Rev. Frederick Cecil Powell, a member of the Society of St. John the Evangelist, at Arlington Heights, Massachusetts. The Convent of St. Anne in Chicago was established in 1921 in response to a call from the rector and vestry for sisters to do missionary work in the parish. For eight years the sisters lived in the second floor of the parish house and used the chapel of the church for their daily offices. Following the purchase by the parish of property immediately south of the church in 1927, the sisters were moved to the convent at 1125 N. LaSalle Avenue which they currently occupy. Since 1957 the convent's principal source of financial support has come from a bequest provided by the estate of Miss Alice Stoskopf, sister of the Rev. William Brewster Stoskopf.]

    Fr. Stoskopf placed emphasis on reverent attendance at Mass. He noted that no one has properly heard Mass who has not been present and attentive from the time the priest begins his preparation at the foot of the altar until after the Last Gospel he retires from the sanctuary. People who live far from the church, as many do, should give care and forethought to arriving on time. If one were unavoidably late, he should enter the church noiselessly, slipping into the rear pew near the door. If one arrived during the Consecration, he should wait outside, kneeling in the vestibule until the priest raised his voice.

    Mental attention and presence were most important. In most books of devotions, there were helps to the proper use of those silent moments in the great action going on at the altar. Comments, whispering, and particularly laughing were highly inappropriate. "What must our Lord think of that," wrote the rector, "and how must his holy angels, present and adoring at every Mass, resent it."

    Young members of the parish, in particular, occasionally needed to be reminded that a reverential attitude was required not only while Mass was celebrated, but at all times in the House of God, particularly in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. Mr. Mallick, who also served as assistant organist, one late afternoon amused himself and several choirboys by singing verses of "Pop Goes the Weasel" while accompanying himself on the church organ. Young Mallick was surprised by the sudden, unexpected appearance of the rector, who sternly rebuked him and refused Mallick access to the organ for an entire month.

    Also important, Fr. Stoskopf taught, was the proper method by which communion was received. Some persons had the habit of keeping their heads bowed over at the moment the priest was trying to communicate them. This made it difficult for him to see the lips in administering the chalice. The difficulty was particularly great in the case of women and girls with hats that came down over the forehead. Each communicant should kneel with the head held in an upright position.

    To receive the Sacred Body, if the custom was to receive it upon the palm of the hand, the right hand should be placed over the left forming a cross, a practice which Cyril of Jerusalem taught long ago. Those who received on the tongue should not protrude the tongue beyond the lips, but open the mouth sufficiently wide for the priest to place the host upon it.

    Fr. Stoskopf urged laymen present at the offering of the Holy Sacrifice to make responses clearly and devoutly. "Responses are very significant things and very important things in the sacred liturgy. They are significant of the fact that what is done at the Altar is no merely personal action on the part of the Priest himself, but that it is a corporate act representative of the whole Church, the mystical body of Christ."



    The problems wee are seeing so much of today, such as the ushers spouting off their opinion of whether or not money should be spent on musicians all stems from one thing: The idea that the people of the parish should be listened to through such stupid things as parish councils.

    If a parish council consisted only of man and women who had master's degrees in liturgy, sacred music, and so on, they might be useful.

    Letting a parish council make or even influence any decision in a parish is like letting the guy who mops up in the surgery suite give his opinion of where to cut and where. Imagine if that were to be permitted, the hospital administrator saying, "Doctor, from now we need to let everyone have active participation in the surgery. I know it's frustrating but all the hospitals are doing it now and we have to follow along."

    If you read this article, you may see how a certain level of respect bound the church together back then. This priest, even though he's Anglican, inspires the parish.

    The Catholic church is being destroyed by Monday Morning Quarterbacking by lay people.

    Many Chancery offices experience Monday morning calls complaining about what goes on the parishes - unfortunately, this empowers the people and makes them think that they have a voice in how Father runs the parish and that's just not how it works.
  • MarkThompson
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    Letting a parish council make or even influence any decision in a parish is like letting the guy who mops up in the surgery suite give his opinion of where to cut and where.


    More like letting the patient have a say, really.
  • Many thanks for this, Noel.
    We see, here, a view of what a very large part of the Anglican Church was like before the going-astray in the late XX. century. It is a tearful pity what has become of it. It deserved far more respect from Roman Catholics than it got. In fact such a respectful embrace may have had a beneficent influence.
    Thanked by 1noel jones, aago
  • ScottKChicago
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    Thank you, Noel.

    I'm a parishioner of Church of the Ascension, Chicago, and thought I'd mention that the offending assistant organist in the "Pop Goes the Weasel" caper lived to the age of 96 and died this past February. We'll have a Requiem for him on May 25.

    We're currently getting ready to do a search for a new rector, and Fr. Stoskopf's example is one I hope a new rector can follow, especially in teaching the why and wherefore of all we do and in setting a consistent example of taking the faith seriously. His successors have done that, and I pray our eventual new rector will as well.