Let All Mortal Flesh
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    I'm wondering if anyone has or has seen an organ arrangement of Picardy (Let All Mortal Flesh) that is a bit more on the Medieval spectrum in style.

    I'm programming this Hymn for Christmas and last time I programmed the tune, I discovered that the harmonization in the 1982 Hymnal is just so... I don't know how to describe it- busy. Cluttered. German?
    I know it's the norm, but I just don't feel like one needs chordal harmonic rhythm that matches the rhythm of the melody.

    Anyway- I'm looking for something more Chant-like.
    Something with drones.
    Something that respects the tune's overall feeling (mysterious, mystical).
    Something that has a much slower harmonic rhythm.
    Something that doesn't sound so freaking German Protestant.

    Audrey (rey) once wrote a choral arrangement of this tune (different text) for me, for a very specific need. (It was great, by the way). But that doesn't fit here, because it wasn't really congregational (which I kinda need).

    Any ideas? Anyone want to write something?
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  • I have also been looking for something similar to this. Something with a lot of A's rather than A minors if that makes any sense.
  • I assume that you are aware of the The Hymnal 1940 version, which is much nicer than the 1982.

    Also, are you aware of the choral arrangement of this by Gustav Holst?
    It is very easy, has some accompaniments that would give you inspirations similar to what you are looking for.
    It has a very glorious climax at the last stanza and becomes a choir favourite.
    If one wished, one could have the congregation sing on several of the stanzas.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Are the Holst or the 1940 versions available online? (Free or for sale)
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    PS
    You should never assume I'm aware of anything. I usually am not.
    In this case, I was not.

    I appreciate the assumption, because it means you think I'm a smart, well-informed guy. That's an image I do my best to cultivate. Unfortunately, the truth always comes out eventually.

    Thanks for the suggestions, by the way.
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Liam
    Thanks!

    My harmonic sight reading is a bit weak- so it's hard to tell until I can play through it at home- but at first blush that looks so much more like what I think it ought to sound like.
  • BenB
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    The Holst is available online here

    Also, a youtube recording with orchestra is available here
  • Bizarre as it sounds, the Holst harmonization is very similar to the one employed in OCP's Choral Praise. Vice Versa, actually, but surprising nonetheless.
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Thanks to Liam, we will be using the harmonization from the 1906 English Hymnal for Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence at Christmas Eve.
    Woot woot!

    Unfortunately, the online copy (and probably the real-life copy) of the 1906 is a bit hard to read.
    Props my to my substitute organist who pointed out that the Presbyterian Hymnal has the same harmonization, in a much easier to read format.
    (Apparently it is true that there are Calvinists and then there are Calvinists....)

    Interestingly, the English Hymnal says this hymn is to be sung, "In Unison." The editors seemed to be aware that the harmonization was in support of chant-like singing, not a big production in and of itself.
    (Yes, yes, I know Picardy is a French carol, not a Chant, but I think it is more related to Gregorian Hymnody than it is to Protestant Hymnody).

    Anywho.
    Here is the Presbyterian Hymnal printing of the 1906 harmonization. I like it.
  • Adam, when programing this hymn, one should keep in mind that it is originally a Eucharistic hymn from the Liturgy of St. James and was intended for the Offertory. However, more specifically, historically in the west it has been used not only as an Eucharistic hymn, but as the Introit on the Feast of St, Michael and All Angels. It's modern contemporary association to the Advent and Christmas seasons is a stretch at best!
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    Thanks for the info.

    We're doing it during Communion on Christmas Eve. I chose it precisely because it is Eucharistic, and maybe slightly Christmas-y; rather than other texts which might be the other way around.
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  • Anywho.
    Here is the Presbyterian Hymnal printing of the 1906 harmonization. I like it.


    If I am not mistaken, this is the exact same harmonization also found in The Adoremus Hymnal.
  • chonakchonak
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    A little more about the Byzantine-rite origin of this hymn text: on Holy Saturday morning, a service of Christ's descent into Hades is offered: first the Blessing of the New Light, followed by the Divine Liturgy of St. Basil, including the Procession of Triumph.

    After the offertory procession of the Divine Liturgy, in place of the usual "Cherubic Hymn", this is sung:

    "Let all mortal flesh be silent; let us stand in fear and trembling, having no earthly thought: for behold, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords is coming to be sacrificed and to be given as food to the faithful. He is escorted by hosts of archangels and by all the principalities and dominions... escorted by the many-eyed Cherubim and by the six-winged Seraphim covering their faces, all chanting; Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!"
  • Stumbled on this thread two years after it's prime, but had to say that the absolute best harmonization I've heard for this is from the Marier Hymnal - "Hymns, Psalms and Spiritual Canticles." Once you've used this, all other pale and don't seem to fit. If anyone wants a copy, let me know.
  • "Hymn Anthem: Picardy" by Healey Willan (Peters)
  • As for the Marier harmonization, a big "yes"! It so "French".
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    would love a copy.
  • CHGiffenCHGiffen
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    Me too.
  • Ditto.
  • I tried to post it, but got a message that file was too big.
    I'll check it and try again. :(
  • Adam Wood and others, if tomboysuze can't resolve the file-size problem, send me a message and I'll scan Marier's "Let All Mortal Flesh" for you.
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  • Success! It's not a great copy, but it's below. Enjoy.
    It's a very sparse setting, which is a perfect compliment to this text, I think.

    We did it at mass yesterday with a violin and viola taking the parts... .such as they are. under and over women's voices singing in unison...clear w/little vibrato...it was stunning.
    I know that this setting is for unison w/organ underlay, but in my "gluttony" for a little more exposition, I have had my choir sing all the parts as an experiment of sorts.
    The alto creates a sort of drone that lays an edgy foundation for the text and the chant-like melody. In my humble opinion, Marier captures the essence of the text perfectly.
    Sad, beautiful, hopeful, powerful and raw -- all at the same time.
    It is understated but - to me - spectacular in that it sets the text out in front and says, here's the truth - you can't look away.
    Anyway....let me know what you think.
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  • One last thought:
    This is, undoubtedly, one of my favorite hymns that crosses into chant and a reverence that is worthy. My sense is that is must be done with an underlying forward motion that keeps it moving into a rhythm of arsis and thesis - much like chant. Too slow and can die and disappears into that heap of good hymns labelled as "boring." Too fast and you lose the drama and power of the text. This hymn is so exquisitely beautiful that it must be done at the perfect tempo and come to a series of waves that almost break, but then then fade back into dark, quiet, reverence - esp. in the text: "veil their faces to the presence...."
    It's like a battle cry and then....retreat into humble restraint from measure to measure.
    Such a wild ride in the microcosm of a hymn. Deo Gratias.
  • @ Randolph Nichols - maybe your scanner will result in a cleaner copy? I'm not great at this stuff when I'm in a rush....which is always.
  • chonakchonak
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    I just whipped up this transcription and an audio file:
  • Wonderful! Thank you Chonak.

    We need THIS hymnal to be redone. Now, not in 2 years.

    I have been meaning to say that I have about 200 copies of the pew version of this hymnal that are mine and travel with me when needed.
    I know the choir versions are extremely rare - I have one - (ordered two weeks before they stopped publishing. I had an order in for 10 more when I got the word they couldn't fill the order. )

    Does anyone know if the "promised" redoux of this amazing resource is ever going to happen?
  • Gustav Holst made a very beautiful and very easy SATB setting of this text and the tune 'Picardy' with a very simple organ accompaniment. Several of the stanzas are unison, while the ones in parts are not at all difficult. The last stanza has a rather exciting organ part on which one could enjoy the trumpet stop, and it ends with glorious harmonised 'amens'. It could easily become one of your choir's favourites.

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  • Thanks, Jackson.
    I have that setting - and have always wanted to do it.
    But, if I recall correctly, isn't the first verse men only?

    If it's the setting I'm thinking of - I've never had enough men to do it well.
    Is that the one?
  • The first stanza is, I think, for women, but could as well be done by men or even a soloist. It's very haunting what with the single sustained e on the organ throughout the first stanza.
  • Well, now I'm definitely going to give it another look. Love Holst in general - esp. his setting of "O God Beyond All Praising".
    Perhaps we should have a thread of good suggestions for choral settings or ideas for Feast Days/Seasons, etc. Hm?
  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    >> his setting of "O God Beyond All Praising".

    To be more precise, that text was written to fit the tune, not the other way 'round. So it isn't Holst's setting of a text, but rather an awesome tune by Holst, to which a fine, though lesser, talent set his own text to.
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  • Oh, yes. Thank you, Adam. Perhaps I should have phrased that differently. I assumed that his orchestral suite: "The Planets" or just "Planets" was widely known. It's Jupiter, I think,right?

    Well, it's glorious and not all that difficult, except the last 2 or 3 measures - where the pauses have to be just right! But so much fun. I did hear one conductor refer to the end of that piece as a little schmaltzy - but I don't think so.
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  • Here is the harmonization from The Hymnal 1940, again, slightly different from the 1906. I will confess, I have a soft spot for suspensions, and I think that the suspensions and the slow-moving but moving bass are what make this harmonization work.
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  • francis
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    yet another arrangment:

    download score

    listen to simulation
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  • Adam WoodAdam Wood
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    tbsz-
    yes, Jupiter. Holst then wrote the hymntune based on the Jupiter theme. The tune is named THAXTED. O God Beyond All Praising is not the first, or most popular, text set to THAXTED. In England they sing "I Vow to Thee, My Country."

    (If you're strapped for contemporary-but-good Easter hymns next Spring, check out "Three Days" set to THAXTED, available (I believe) in WLP and OCP hymnals.
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  • I'd like a Marier hymnal! Where can I find a used copy, and who is planning on redoing it so I can watch for that too?
  • You know, sometimes I feel like a kid in a candy shop on this forum....(sacred music candy?).
    Thank you all for sharing these settings!
    @ Adam, will do!
    @ Francis - thanks for reposting this. I downloaded and printed it before but lost it...(so much great music....only three masses a weekend.)
    @ Earl - I don't know where you can get a Marier Hymnal Choir edition. BUT...I just did an search on the Marier hymnal and struck gold. You can actually download the entire hymnal on scribd at this link:

    http://www.scribd.com/nicholasjordansherwood8993

    Nicholas Jordan, who has some affiliation with the Boston Choir School, founded by Dr. Marier, has scanned and posted the entire hymnal (CHOIR AND ORGAN EDITION) in 12 (or so) different downloadable segments. You have to pay $9 for a day pass on scribd, but, obviously, most of us would pay a lot more for this gem.

    Chonak, has said that it is probably unlikely that the promised revision of this hymnal will ever happen due to recent personnel changes at the BCS - the settings that are now outdated due to the new translation, etc. etc.


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  • The original title for this song is: "Jésus Christ s'habille en pauvre".
    Then transform into a song of advent under the title: "vienne la rosée" (come the dew).
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  • The accompaniment in The Collegeville Hymnal is interesting also - maybe as a last verse. But don't forget, on all of these hymn versions, use the "Amen" from The Hymnal 1940, with the "Picardy Third" at the end. (I don't like hearing it on the last note of the verse, though.