Propers without chant settings
  • tomjaw
    Posts: 2,704
    These feasts found in Diocesan calendars from 1962 do not appear to have Gregorian chant settings. We have not found a full supplement to the Graduale Romanum for England and Wales other than the English Benedictine supplement 1926.

    Die 11 Iulii B. HADRIANI FORTESCUE MARTYRIS III classis EDIT Have now found this Mass see link!
    Antiphona ad Introitum
    Sap. 10, 13
    Vénditum iustum non derelíquit Dóminus, sed a peccatóribus liberávit eum; et in vínculis non derelíquit illum, donec afférret illi sceptrum regni. Ps. 36, 18 Novit Dóminus dies immaculatórum: et heréditas eórum in ætérnum erit. V. Glória Patri.

    Graduale Ps. 78, 1
    Deus, venérunt gentes in hereditátem tuam, polluérunt templum sanctum tuum: posuérunt Ierúsalem in pomórum custódiam. V. Ibid., v. 3 Effudérunt sánguinem servórum tuórum tamquam aquam, et non erat qui sepelíret.

    Allelúia, allelúia. V. Ps. 36, 39 et 40 Salus autem iustórum a Dómino, et salvábit eos, quia speravérunt in eo. Allelúia.

    Antiphona ad Offertorium
    Sap. 10, 12 et 14
    Certámen forte dedit illi ut vínceret. Dedit illi claritátem ætérnam.

    Antiphona ad Communionem
    Ioann. 15, 13
    Maiórem hac dilectiónem nemo habet, ut ánimam suam ponat quis pro amícis suis.

    Die 17 Iulii APPARITIONIS SACRÆ IMAGINIS SANCTÆ MARIÆ IN PORTICU III classis
    Antiphona ad Introitum
    Cant. 6, 9
    Quæ est ista quæ progréditur quasi auróra consúrgens, pulchra ut luna, elécta ut sol, terríbilis ut castrórum ácies ordináta? Ps. 18, 2 Cæli enárrant glóriam Dei, et ópera mánuum eius annúntiat firmaméntum. V. Glória Patri.

    Graduale Ps. 44, 13, 15 et 16
    Vultum tuum deprecabúntur omnes dívites plebis, adducéntur Regi Vírgines post eam, próximæ eius adducéntur tibi in lætítia et exsultatióne. V. Iudith 13, 25 Quia hódie nomen tuum ita magnificávit Dóminus, ut non recédat laus tua de ore hóminum.

    Allelúia, allelúia. V. Esther 15, 3 Et tu ínvoca Dóminum, et lóquere regi pro nobis, et líbera nos de morte. Allelúia.

    In Missis votivis Tempore Paschali dicitur:
    Allelúia, allelúia. V. Num. 17,8 Virga Iesse flóruit: Virgo Deum et hóminem génuit. Pacem Deus réddidit, in se reconcílians ima summis.

    Allelúia. V. Luc. 1, 28 Ave, María, grátia plena, Dóminus tecum: benedícta tu in muliéribus. Allelúia.

    Post Septuagesimam, omissis Allelúia et V. sequénti, dicitur
    Tractus Gaude, María Virgo, cunctas hǽreses sola interemísti. V. Quæ Gabriélis Archángeli dictis credidísti. V. Dum Virgo Deum et hóminem genuísti: et post partum Virgo invioláta permansísti. V. Dei Génetrix, intercéde pro nobis.

    Antiphona ad Offertorium
    Ierem. 18, 20
    Recordáre, Virgo Mater, in conspéctu Dómini, ut loquáris pro nobis bona, et ut avértat indignatiónem suam a nobis.

    Antiphona ad Communionem
    Regína mundi digníssima, María Virgo perpétua, intercéde pro nostra pace et salúte, quæ genuísti Christum Dóminum Salvatórem ómnium.

    More to come...
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  • m_r_taylor
    Posts: 317
    Are there any thoughts you might want a composer to bear in mind whilst attempting to set these in an entirely Gregorian style?
  • tomjaw
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    Die 1 Septembris B. HUGONIS MORE MARTYRIS III classis
    Antiphona ad Introitum
    Ps. 26, 10
    Pater meus et mater mea dereliquérunt me: Dóminus autem assúmpsit me. Ps. ibid., 1 Dóminus illuminátio mea et salus mea, quem timébo? V. Glória Patri.

    Graduale Ps. 111, 1-2
    Beátus vir qui timet Dóminum: in mandátis eius cupit nimis. V. Potens in terra erit semen eius: generátio rectórum benedicétur.

    Allelúia, allelúia. V. Ps. 20, 4 Posuísti, Dómine, super caput eius corónam de lápide pretióso. Allelúia.

    Antiphona ad OffertoriumNum. 18, 20
    Ego pars et heréditas tua in médio filiórum Israël.

    Antiphona ad Communionem
    Apoc. 3, 21
    Qui vícerit, dabo ei sedére in throno meo. N.B. See L.U. 1485.

    St Hilda 17th November
    Alleluia, Alleluia. V AEmulor enim vos Dei aemulatione. Despondi enim vos uni viro virginem casta exhibiere Christo. Alleluia.
    See here with a slight change to texts I have also found another setting of the variant text.
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  • tomjaw
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    St. Maximilian Kolbe
    INT. Ps. 138, 17
    Veníte, benedícti Patris mei, dicit Dóminus. Amen, dico vobis: quámdiu fecístis uni de his frátribus meis mínimus, mihi fecístis. (T.P. Allelúia, allelúia.) Ps. 63, 2 Exáudi, Deus oratiónem meam, cum déprecor: a timóre inimíci éripe ánimam meam.
    https://gregobase.selapa.net/chant.php?id=8301

    GRAD. Ps. 115, 13.15
    Cálicem salutáris accípiam, et nomen Dómini invocábo. V. Pretiósa in comspéctu Dómini mors sanctórum ejus.

    ALL. John 12, 25
    Allelúia, allelúia. V. Qui odit ánimam suam in hoc mundo, in vitam æternam custódit team. Allelúia.

    TRACT. Ps. 20, 3-4
    See Liber pg. 1131. last verse has minor change. V. Posuísti in cápite jus coronam...

    ALL. Ps. 115, 7 15
    Allelúia, allelúia. V. O Dómine, quia ego servus tuus, et fílius ancíllæ tuæ: dirupísti víncula mea, tibi sacrificábo hóstiam laudis.
    Allelúia. Pretiósa in conspéctu Dómini mors sanctorum ejus. Allelúia. (See G.R. [19])

    OFF. Ps. 20, 4-5
    Posuísti, Dómine, in cápite ejus corónam de lápide pretióso: vitam pétiit a te, et tribuísti ei longitúdinem diérum in sǽculum sǽculi. (allelúia.) (See G.R. [14])

    COMM. John 115, 13
    Majores hac dilectiónem nemo habet, ut ánimam suam ponta quis pro amícis, dicid Dóminus.
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  • tomjaw
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    @m_r_taylor
    1. Some of the texts have similar chants with only small changes to the text. I think these could be modified, to create the new music.
    2. The Neo-Gregorian settings for St Joseph the Worker etc. used ancient chants with the new words grafted on. Some of these attempts were successful, others not so. This could be a basis for creating new chant.
    3. Each Proper has a familiar style, Introits are different to Communions, it would be good to try to follow this.
    4. Some chants such as the Mode II Alleluia's the mode VIII and mode II Tracts, all follow patterns. For those chants that are used more than once with different texts could also be a basis.
    5. It really needs to sound like Gregorian chant...
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  • rich_enough
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    I take it you had something like this in mind? New Gregorian style proper chants for the feast of St. Louis Marie de Montfort were recently composed by Mr. David Hughes. See this article from the New Liturgical Movement. The feast was added to the calendar in 1947, but proper chants were never written.

    Mr. Hughes is currently organist and choirmaster at the ICKSP parish in Waterbury, Connecticut, and a member of the CMAA board. Perhaps he could be approached about writing proper chants for the feasts listed above. I find them quite convincing.
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  • tomjaw
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    @rich_enough
    Thanks they do sound like chant... I notice they are not on gregobase?

    I had been asked to sort out music for St. Maximilian Kolbe's feast. They have it as an external Solemnity in Zurich each year. The choir sings the chants from the common, or psalm tones, but would love chant settings.

    Ideally when new Propers are designed they should use texts and music, that has already been in use. We have plenty of music that is not used in the Missale Romanum 1962, and that should be brought back into use.

    For those novel texts ideally the Church should have a competition to write chants, but of course this is not a priority for those in charge. We have all been called by the various church legislation on chant to make Gregorian chant take pride of place. One way of doing it is to start writing neo-gregorian settings. Setting that could be still in use in 1000 years time!

    I am interested in what the talented composers here could produce!
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